Some shallow stack pushes when ITM - Suicide or Standard

Sam T. · #1 10-21-2005, 07:23 PM

Edit: Glitch with the converter. I pushed the 77 hand with a much smaller stack.

These are from a $5+.50 on Stars. Field of 1500 to start, these hands are from 45 players on down. The table is very tight, with min-raises from the big stack or pushes from shorties often taking down the pot. I'm curious which ones you like, and which you hate.

What amazed me (not that this will be news to many of you, but I'm kinda dumb) is that three steals can get you from 33rd in chips (out of 35) to 10th. BE AGGRESSIVE.

Hand one:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t4000 (9 handed) converter

MP3 (t29412)
CO (t25040)
Button (t115269)
SB (t78424)
BB (t52433)
UTG (t98608)
UTG+1 (t49547)
Hero (t42408)
MP2 (t40294)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to t42408

Hand Two:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t4000 (7 handed) converter

BB (t42012)
UTG (t108469)
MP1 (t45433)
MP2 (t99208)
CO (t50147)
Hero (t35608)
SB (t42894)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
4 folds, Hero raises to t35608,

Hand 3:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t4000 (7 handed) converter

MP1 (t42412)
MP2 (t108869)
CO (t45833)
Button (t44504)
SB (t52547)
Hero (t42986)
UTG (t47294)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
4 folds, Button raises to t16000, 1 fold, Hero raises to t82112

Hand Four:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t4000 (9 handed) converter

Button (t42412)
SB (t49328)
BB (t108869)
UTG (t22163)
UTG+1 (t45833)
MP1 (t44504)
MP2 (t52547)
Hero (t82312)
CO (t47294)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
4 folds, Hero raises to t42786

Hand 5:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t6000 (8 handed) converter

MP2 (t126280)
CO (t45780)
Button (t156092)
SB (t37133)
BB (t87308)
UTG (t98694)
Hero (t38908)
MP1 (t67520)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to t38608.

Hand the Last:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t3000 (8 handed) converter

UTG (t49801)
UTG+1 (t23941)
MP1 (t30104)
MP2 (t52125)
Hero (t30036)
Button (t43123)
SB (t46546)
BB (t79279)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
4 folds, Hero raises to t30036,

Whitey · #2 10-21-2005, 07:30 PM

The only one I dont like is raising half your stack with 77
either raise 3/4xBB or push.I think it announces you have a middle PP 66-JJ.

#3 10-21-2005, 07:36 PM

Hand 1's marginal because you've gotta go through a lot of people and your stack's a little big. Good cards to do it with though.

Hand 2 is very read dependent, but seems fine if you say they've been tight (and if you haven't been pushing too much).

Hand 3 I hate against most players. I'd just fold. If you have good reason for thinking you have good fold equity, maybe I could see doing this, but usually you don't.

Hand 4 is fine.

Edit: Assumed this was a push. Don't do this.

Hand 5 is a little risky

Hand 6 is fine.

betgo · #4 10-21-2005, 07:38 PM

Hand 1 KJo 4rd position 10.5xBB terrible.

Hand 2 82o button 9xBB only if blinds are extremely tight, also terrible.

Hand 3 86s reraise button miniraise from BB. Standard, but read-dependent.

Hand 4 77 hijack position 20xBB with most opponents covered. Good play, but I would push rather than raising half stack.

Hand 5 44 6.5xBB 6 players to act. You have to push.

Hand 6 76o 10xBB CO. Terrible unless players very tight.

Exitonly · #5 10-21-2005, 07:39 PM

1. i fold that.
2. probably fold that
3. depends on reads, has he been stealing? if so, i like it, if you havn't noticed, then it's so so.
4. I'm not sure about that, because i wouldnt necesarily want to be calling a push from BB there, but after raising that much you ahve to. Standard raise and calling a short stack push would probably be my plan.
5. I like it.
6. ""

edit: whoops, i take it back for hand 6, the blinds went back down to 3000? you caught me off guard... that's iffy, if you hadn't been playing too aggressive until then, it's not so bad, but you seem to have been pushing a lot. So i'd pass this up.

Sam T. · #6 10-21-2005, 07:51 PM

Edited original post: There was a glitch in the converter. My push with 77 was an all-in with a stack half the size.