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Old 05-24-2005, 04:59 PM
piki piki is offline
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Default Re: do you see the flop?

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I know if I am tight ass and I raise almost 1/5 of my stack preflop with AA, I am pretty much going to the felt with it.

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Hence me seeing a 2-1 flop to try and bust you [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]. If I do call you, and the flop comes up 2suited do you push out of position?
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Old 05-24-2005, 06:36 PM
Dr. Strangelove Dr. Strangelove is offline
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Default Re: do you see the flop?

So you think you are outflopping AA more than 33% of the time with AQs?
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Old 05-24-2005, 07:18 PM
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Default Re: do you see the flop?

I would call this limp-reraise with any pair (shooting for set).

With enough behind, I'll call a small reraise with any two. (Well, that's not true, I don't raise with any two, but I won't fold whatever I raised with to a small reraise.)
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Old 05-24-2005, 07:23 PM
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Default SAMPLE HAND

This is a hand I played last night. 10/20 NL.

I have A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. I ($2000) raise to $60 from MP. Extremely tight player ($1500) reraises to $120. I call.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I check, he bets $100, I call.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I check, he bets $150, I call.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I check, he bets $300, I fold, he shows KK.

At no point could I have put enough pressure on him to make him fold, and if I move in on the flop I am an underdog. Now, he priced me in trying to trap me, but there's no guarantee other opponents will do that, which is why AQs is usually a fold.
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Old 05-24-2005, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: SAMPLE HAND

wow, you were really a jack off on this one.

wow.
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Old 05-24-2005, 08:42 PM
creedofhubris creedofhubris is offline
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Default Re: SAMPLE HAND

The jack gets me paid big.

The diamond gets me paid enough.

The ace woulda been ticklish.
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Old 05-25-2005, 09:07 AM
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Default Re: do you see the flop?

I dont expect to ever outflop AA. I also dont expect Villian to always have AA with a limp re-raise. Do you?
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Old 05-25-2005, 09:10 AM
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Good points. Do you think turn K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] pays you off?
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Old 05-25-2005, 08:56 PM
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Default Re: do you see the flop?

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I would rather call with suited connector than AQ here.

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Ditto, which assumes that very occasionally you would in fact raise early with such a hand to vary your play. When you get limp/reraised like that just turn the AQs into AQo and the decision will be much easier to make, since you are not going to be able to raise a tight player off AA/KK with an obvious flush draw on the flop.
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Old 05-26-2005, 04:16 AM
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Default Re: SAMPLE HAND same situation played differently

2/4nl
Hero $ 959.19 tight aggresive stealing alot from button
villian $ 491.50 loose and very aggresive, capable of raising with any two, caught bluffing a few times after firing three bullets

villian limps UTG, few callers, Hero raises to 12 on button w AQs, villian reraises to 50 (the old limp raise) others fold, Hero calls

pot about 115
flop q x x rainbow
villian bets 50, hero calls
Turn blank, giving hero a flush draw
villian bets 125, hero calls
River blank
Villian push
Hero calls 240 or so to make 700

Villian flips KK and takes 490 from Hero [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
- fear the limp reraise
- calling can give you very difficult decisions
- raise to see where you are at
- trust your instincts especially after writing/reading a post on the topic
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