hand vs jason_t, gimme a line

[sthief09]

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Are you guys playing well or grabbing ass?

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We're playing well.

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well you aren't based on your preflop play (and I most likely don't like your flop play either) [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[sthief09]

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Hi Bakku,

I'm suprised nobody has considered just calling the flop raise intending to just call down. By the turn, you don't have to worry about protecting your hand so much because any hand with a piece of this flop has 3-5 outs agaisnt you while you're drawing slim when you're behind and from what I understand Jason is the type of player that can make good tough folds, so there's not much value in raising a turn either.

[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Kailia

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this is true, but we're still missing a critical piece of information, and that's whether this player is aggressive or passive.

[bakku]

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3/6 Commerce with jason_t, gaming mouse and private joker

a total donk limps UTG, folded to jason in the hijack who limps, i raise ATs on the button, retard lady calls in the SB, BB folds, rest call. 4 to the flop for 8SB.

AJ3r, none of my suit
SB checks, donk utg bets, jason raises, what's my action and plan for the rest of the hand?

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I don't care what he has. he played it like [censored]

I hate terms like "donk" because they don't describe what type of player it is. obviously loose but aggressive, passive, average? it's impossible to say based on this information

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Hey Josh, at this point in the night I'd say I had him read as aggressive until faced with any resistance.

edit: How does UTG's aggression level affect the way you would play this hand?

[bakku]

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I don't care what he has. he played it like [censored]

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I play 33 the same way here.

[sthief09]

well jason's read is presumably similar, so you can get a gauge of how lightly he might be raising. maybe he's raising a JTs or J8s type hand figuring the donk could be betting a draw and you're tight enough to muck KK for 2 bets, but not one. I don't think he has 33. I think this is a good time to slowplay the flop. I think my line here is to call the flop and raise the turn. he pretty much has to bet the turn. I think he has a J.

and yeah I gues a limp with 44-22 are ok here. he's known as a nit so I don't know if he's raising J8s-J9s here as he probably should, even though I don't know the table dynamic

[PokerBob]

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3/6 Commerce with jason_t, gaming mouse and private joker

a total donk limps UTG, folded to jason in the hijack who limps, i raise ATs on the button, retard lady calls in the SB, BB folds, rest call. 4 to the flop for 8SB.

AJ3r, none of my suit
SB checks, donk utg bets, jason raises, what's my action and plan for the rest of the hand?

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I think I'm calling this down. I have no idea what he could have that would make sense to raise with.

[PokerBob]

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I don't care what he has. he played it like [censored]



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Are we talking about jason or UTG?

[jason_t]

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3/6 Commerce with jason_t, gaming mouse and private joker

a total donk limps UTG, folded to jason in the hijack who limps, i raise ATs on the button, retard lady calls in the SB, BB folds, rest call. 4 to the flop for 8SB.

AJ3r, none of my suit
SB checks, donk utg bets, jason raises, what's my action and plan for the rest of the hand?

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I don't care what he has. he played it like [censored]

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What makes you say this?

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Sorry for soundin retarded but i'd fold this with your hand being marginal at best but i don't know who jason_t is. Can someone explain to me why 3 betting seems the best idea here plz.

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[jason_t]

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Sorry for soundin retarded but i'd fold this with your hand being marginal at best but i don't know who jason_t is. Can someone explain to me why 3 betting seems the best idea here plz.

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I'm jason_t. I'm a nit and I'm proud of it.