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Old 05-10-2005, 10:17 PM
DeathbySuckout DeathbySuckout is offline
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Default KK w/ too much action

This hand had me all confused. Please comment on all streets.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls.

Flop: (20 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP calls, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (15 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP calls, Hero calls, SB folds, BB calls.

River: (19 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 19 BB
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Old 05-10-2005, 11:01 PM
Chobohoya Chobohoya is offline
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Default Re: KK w/ too much action

You really really need to be more aggressive with KK in this spot.
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Old 05-10-2005, 11:40 PM
krishanleong krishanleong is offline
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Default Re: KK w/ too much action

preflop good.

Flop, either call planning on raising the turn or 3-bet.

Raise the turn you wuss.

Bet the river, fold to a cr.

Krishan
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Old 05-10-2005, 11:44 PM
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Default Re: KK w/ too much action

I liked it up until you did not c/r the turn. Bet the river too.
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Old 05-11-2005, 12:18 AM
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Default Re: KK w/ too much action

Raise the turn, bet the river.

Surf
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Old 05-11-2005, 12:31 AM
SlyGuy SlyGuy is offline
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Default Re: KK w/ too much action

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I liked it up until you did not c/r the turn. Bet the river too.

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How could he have C/R'd the turn?
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Old 05-11-2005, 12:37 AM
imported_CaseClosed326 imported_CaseClosed326 is offline
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Default Re: KK w/ too much action

Whoops. Read it wrong. Should have raised the turn.
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Old 05-11-2005, 01:58 AM
Alobar Alobar is offline
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Default Re: KK w/ too much action

everyone is being to nice to you in their replies. I feel harshenss is in order (purely for your own good of course)

you played this hand like a giant pussy! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I 3 bet the flop. The pot is so huge that everyone is seeing this hand to the river with any sort of outs. So waiting till the turn to raise does nothing for hand protection, you might as well pump the pot while you have everyone commited on the flop. Theres also the danger of an overcard (to the board) falling on the turn, and UTG pussing out and not betting his A9 or whatever. It also saves you from getting 3 bet on the turn. So in the end, I think a flop 3 bet puts just as much money in the pot and has fewer drawbacks. If he caps, the board the way it is, then you can put on your skirt and call down if you like

for god's sake, bet this river!!
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Old 05-11-2005, 02:01 AM
Paradigm Paradigm is offline
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Default Re: KK w/ too much action

"blind post"

you need to reraise on the flop and turn, and hopefully drive some of those bettors out. why cap preflop but not cap the flop?

but with 3 players checking in front of you, i don't mind the check at the end. i think you'd probably get called by a hand that beats you.
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Old 05-11-2005, 03:05 AM
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Default Re: KK w/ too much action

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but with 3 players checking in front of you, i don't mind the check at the end.

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This is a HORRIBLE river check - you are going to get called by any PP, and any 1 pair. The pot is ginormous. Sometimes you'll get called by A high.

Surf
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