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Old 07-03-2004, 02:18 PM
ReDeYES88 ReDeYES88 is offline
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Default PP NLH tourney, late rounds .. did i play this one right? . ..

late rounds of a cheapo 5+1 NL tourney at PP.
+/- 60 players left out of 1000, average stack +/- 15k
CO w/the big stack (tourney chip leader) just flashed KK the previous hand, so i seriously doubted that he had another big pair. He had been stealing several pots with big bets, and had been caught a few times.
I'm sitting in about 10th in chips. Do I call and try to double up to become the chip leader by 20k chips, or muck and be happy that I'm still in about 15th place? I raised 4x the BB preflop, should it have been more? Any suggestions welcome

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1500 (9 handed)

saw flop|<font color="C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP3 (t4591)
<font color="C00000">CO (t63349)</font>
Button (t14491)
SB (t850)
BB (t18526)
UTG (t14936)
UTG+1 (t26717)
<font color="C00000">Hero (t32375)</font>
MP2 (t9106)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t6000</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, <font color="CC3333">CO raises to t63349 (All-In)</font>, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls t26375 (All-In).

Flop: (t97974) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t97974) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: (t97974) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t97974

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero shows Qc Qs (one pair, queens).
CO shows Qd Ac (flush, king high).
Outcome: CO wins t97974. </font>
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Old 07-03-2004, 04:36 PM
curmudgeon curmudgeon is offline
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Default ya did great..........just got real unlucky

ya got all your chips in as a BIG favorite.......
it's hard to do better than that.

Congrats on your fine finish.
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Old 07-03-2004, 06:39 PM
ReDeYES88 ReDeYES88 is offline
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Default Re: ya did great..........just got real unlucky

yeah.. i had a feeling that i was way ahead when i called. .. of course it's easy to second guess after the fact, but i guess the real question is if it's worth risking my tourney life by taking on the big stack. . .even a muck leaves me in great position to move up dozens of spots. . .

the classic dilema. . .play to win it all or play to finish higher in the money
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Old 07-03-2004, 06:59 PM
Sundevils21 Sundevils21 is offline
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Default Re: ya did great..........just got real unlucky

in a $5 tourny you got to play for the big bucks, imo. Well played.

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CO w/the big stack (tourney chip leader) just flashed KK the previous hand, so i seriously doubted that he had another big pair

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btw, what he showed the hand before has *nothing* to do with what his cards are this time. He was just as likely to have KK this time as he was to get it last time. The past has nothing to do with the future as far as the deck is concerned.
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Old 07-03-2004, 07:57 PM
ReDeYES88 ReDeYES88 is offline
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Default Re: ya did great..........just got real unlucky

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He was just as likely to have KK this time as he was to get it last time. The past has nothing to do with the future as far as the deck is concerned.

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. . .yeah, i know... i've had bullets back to back before, as well as AA, KK &amp; QQ three consecutive hands. . .but when you're lookin' for a reason to slide that stack.. . . . well, ya know. . [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 07-04-2004, 07:35 PM
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Default Re: PP NLH tourney, late rounds .. did i play this one right? . ..

Welcome to the boards ReDeYES88.

You can never fold here unless ALL of the following conditions are met:

1. You have known your opponent all your life.
2. He has never re-raised with less than K-K.

Other than that, I'd say you have to call all-in. Very seldom will you find yourself to be a big underdog. More than likely, you will be anywhere from a small to huge favorite. The fact that your opponent has enough chips to double your stack is just the icing on the cake. I call that bet every time.

--Casey
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