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Old 12-14-2005, 04:43 PM
beaster beaster is offline
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Speaking of Jones' book, his was my first poker book and helped me crush the nanos (up to .50/1). It's a very good book for the "no fold'em hold'em" style of play you encounter on these levels. His "look for a reason to fold" mantra is very weak-tighty but apparently was correct for the type of play I observed.

I recently picked up the 3rd edition for fits and giggles and found it to be an even better prerequisite to SSHE now. If you are playing .50/1 and lower, quite frankly start with Jones' book first.

Once you move up to 1/2, you're going to find that Jones' strategy is going to leave you out in the cold. There is simply too much missing from this book to expect to win at 1/2 and above. I believe you'll wind up break-even at best.
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Old 12-14-2005, 04:47 PM
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I plan on using the book to aid my advance from 3/6 to 5/10 slowly. I've always done well at 2/4 and 3/6, live and online for about 2 years now. I figured I was ready for 5/10 ... and maybe I am and I just had a bad first experience, but I don't think a good text that I use as a tool and not a bible will really hurt at all. Thanks for your responses.

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2/4 and 3/6 Live are about the same as .50/1.00 on Party

Playing Party 5-10 Full Ring is basically like playing 15-30/20-40 at your Casino.

The player at 5-10 are world class compared to the donks that inhabit the 3-6 live games of the world
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Old 12-14-2005, 05:00 PM
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I think the Lee Jones book is a must for playing 1/2 at Party.

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NO! Horrible weak tight book...only if you are a beginner. His habits
are hard to break; better to learn correctly and play through the harder
concepts in SSHE.

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I haven't read Miller's book, but I hear it is equally good.

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The first part of this sentence: SHAME ON YOU!
The second part: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! NO.

-ZEN

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So much truth to this. Lee Jones was my first book and I thought I knew what I was doing but I was eaten up by any experienced player. Theory Of Poker and Ed Millers SSH are a must unless you are going to play at my table. If so they are a frivolous waste of money that you could use buying yourself drinks while you play with me!!! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 12-14-2005, 05:22 PM
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I have read SSHE, HEFAP and am working on TOP. King Yao's Weighing the Odds in Hold'Em is a good book as well.

After TOP I want to work through The Physcology of Poker and Inside the Poker Mind.
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Old 12-14-2005, 06:05 PM
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For 1/2, I like Lee Jones pre flop advice, except I play less low suited cards and two gappers than he reccomends.

For a typical lose, soft 10-handed 1/2 ring game:

For JJ, TT, 99, you want to avoid having 3/4 opponents. If an EP raise will give you 1, 2, 5+ opponents, then do so. If raising will give you 3 or 4 opponents, and calling will mean a lot of people will see the flop with you, then call with hopes of catching a set. This is discussed ion sklansky+malmuth's holdem book. When in doubt, raise the TT and call with 99.

In EP, you should limp with KQo or AJo, but there is no harm in folding them if you are new. KQs and AJs should not be folded in EP. Limping with AJ or KQ in this type of game means that many people will be limping in with worse hands, but raising them will cause many worse hands to fold, but all better hands will call. Be careful that in loose games, top pair is vulnerable: you will need to apply pressure early, but restraint later if you get pushed back too hard, as people like playing A2o and K2o, then calling if they hit their K/A but raising if they catch two pair.

AQ: raise. AQo shouldn't reraise though.

If you are folded to in fourth or later position, always raise TT, 99, AQ, AJ, KQ.

If an unknown or strong player raises before you, then fold AJo, KQo in EP. If the raiser is bad, and your raises are getting respect, reraise with any hand you feel like playing against him heads up.
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Old 12-14-2005, 07:13 PM
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AQ: raise. AQo shouldn't reraise though.

If you are folded to in fourth or later position, always raise TT, 99, AQ, AJ, KQ.

If an unknown or strong player raises before you, then fold AJo, KQo in EP. If the raiser is bad, and your raises are getting respect, reraise with any hand you feel like playing against him heads up.

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the list of hands you state are what I call the HUD special hands. I am just as likely to fold AJ,AQ,KQ,99 from a 10/8/2.5 and raise/ 3bet the same set of hands against a 40/15 (lag). Once you get to the 1/2 level and above Pokertracker /hud combo ($80) is a must have. At 1/2 it will pay for itself in a week.
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