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Old 11-30-2005, 09:49 PM
scotty34 scotty34 is offline
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Default KK Turn Fold vs LAG

MP is 50/16 over 100 hands, but doesn't seem too ridiculous postflop

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, MP calls, SB calls.

Flop: (12 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, MP calls, SB folds.

Turn: (7.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, Hero folds

Please tell me how retarded this was.
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Old 11-30-2005, 09:58 PM
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Default Re: KK Turn Fold vs LAG

Let's just call down. We have a gutshot.
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Old 11-30-2005, 09:59 PM
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Default Re: KK Turn Fold vs LAG

Ok your propably behind but you gotta see the river. The pot is big, you have a gutshot and 2 Kings that might be good as well so a total of 5 outs maybe? I don't know what I would do on the river UI though. I might make a sanity call and hope hes bluffing but if you wanna go with your read, fold the river UI.
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Old 11-30-2005, 10:05 PM
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Default Re: KK Turn Fold vs LAG

bad because we're getting the right price to hit one of our outs to the nuts. we also have outs to our set, and he may be raising us with something like QJ, against which we have 12 outs (and maybe he's smart enough to not bet it again on a river A or 6, leaving us with a free showdown with the best hand.
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Old 11-30-2005, 11:48 PM
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Default Re: KK Turn Fold vs LAG

can we fold the river UI?
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Old 12-01-2005, 12:18 AM
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Default Re: KK Turn Fold vs LAG

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can we fold the river UI?

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I would.
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Old 12-01-2005, 12:23 AM
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Default Re: KK Turn Fold vs LAG

If we're planning on fold the river UI does an A or a 6 count as improving our hand?
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Old 12-01-2005, 12:36 AM
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Default Re: KK Turn Fold vs LAG

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If we're planning on fold the river UI does an A or a 6 count as improving our hand?

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technically I suppose it would - I realize I should have called due to pot odds, but I think subconsciously I folded so I wouldn't have to deal with hitting an A,K or 6 or splitting with a T [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 12-01-2005, 01:04 AM
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Default Re: KK Turn Fold vs LAG

FWIW, QJ probably raises the flop, as does KT. You probably have 6 clean outs.
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