77 in SB vs. 3 bet by BB

MexKrax · #1 11-16-2005, 12:15 AM

Villian in this hand is a little passive 33/8/1.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
4 folds, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (4 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero calls.

River: (6 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks.

Final Pot: 6 BB

Was calling down here the right play? I figured 77 was a resonably good hand so I want to see a showdown here, but it's not too strong so I want to get there as cheaply as possible right?

Lmn55d · #2 11-16-2005, 12:20 AM

Against an unknown or loose/aggro player I would bet the river expecting to be called by A9-AQ more often than by a better hand (or checkraised). Since he's passive, this guy has a smaller preflop 3betting range and could easily be checking 99-QQ (24 combos) here. A guy like this might fold AJ/AQ to a river bet or not 3bet AJ preflop. Well played imo.

irishpint · #3 11-16-2005, 12:20 AM

at least bet the river how you played it.

smartalecc5 · #4 11-16-2005, 12:23 AM

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I think thats a little easier to say once, in retrospect, you realize that Villain will check the river.

Atleast you supported your statement, so I can understand your point of view. </sarcasm> [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

irishpint · #5 11-16-2005, 12:24 AM

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at least bet the river how you played it.

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I think thats a little easier to say once, in retrospect, you realize that Villain will check the river.

Atleast you supported your statement, so I can understand your point of view. </sarcasm> [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

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here is my support:
WA/WB type of line. villian checks the river w/ a lot of unimproved hands that he bets the flop and turn with. value bet.

also I dont think 33/8/1 (how many hands?) is too passive. on the passive side, yes, but more or less an average donkey, no?

MexKrax · #6 11-16-2005, 12:36 AM

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also I dont think 33/8/1 (how many hands?) is too passive. on the passive side, yes, but more or less an average donkey, no?

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This was over only 50 hands, all from datamining so I can't give any sort of read beyond the stats.

Lmn55d · #7 11-16-2005, 12:38 AM

33/8/1 is pretty damn passive

obsidian · #8 11-16-2005, 12:56 AM

I think the turn check is fine as this villain this passive will often check behind with a hand we are behind (99-QQ). I probably play it the same.

MexKrax · #9 11-18-2005, 04:30 PM

Thanks for the comments everyone. Villian showed ATo and MHIG.