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Old 10-08-2005, 10:04 PM
Uglyowl Uglyowl is offline
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Default Re: THE BETS ARE MADE BEFORE YOUR HAND IS DEALT

How bout' the option to buy AA insurance? That would be a money maker.
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Old 10-08-2005, 10:04 PM
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Default Re: Party Sidebet bar

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You now bet during sit n goes on the flop color being all of the same color. It pays 8:1 if you hit. Im lazy what are the odds of actually hitting this ?

Party poker is like the newest hustler on the block these days.

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No. It pays 8 for 1, which is actually 7 to 1. And you can't bet after you see your hole card (well you can but the bet isn't settled until the following hand. It's a sucker bet. Another fish bankroll drainer.
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Old 10-08-2005, 10:07 PM
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Default Re: THE BETS ARE MADE BEFORE YOUR HAND IS DEALT

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How bout' the option to buy AA insurance? That would be a money maker.

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Good call, basically the opposite of what I was talking about. I could see people check-folding AA on the flop in a 5 BB pot to win a 1 BB side bet.
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Old 10-08-2005, 11:08 PM
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Default Re: Party Sidebet bar

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You now bet during sit n goes on the flop color being all of the same color. It pays 8:1 if you hit. Im lazy what are the odds of actually hitting this ?

Party poker is like the newest hustler on the block these days.

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No. It pays 8 for 1, which is actually 7 to 1. And you can't bet after you see your hole card (well you can but the bet isn't settled until the following hand. It's a sucker bet. Another fish bankroll drainer.

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yeah, this is right.. I just tested this out with a $1 bet and when i hit, i got $8 back (7:1).

You guys who are using probabilities have this wrong. The odds are actually 7.5:1.. I was crapping my pants at first, thinking this was an oversight on party's part, until I realized it's 8 FOR 1. BUMMMMER.


odds:

(52 c 3) - (26 c 3) : (26 c 3)

52 x 51 x 50/3 x 2 x 1 = 22100 total flops

26 x 25 x 24/3 x 2 x 1 = 2600 one color (red or black) flops

odds: (22100-2600):2600 or 7.5:1
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Old 10-08-2005, 11:12 PM
yellowjack yellowjack is offline
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Default Re: Party Sidebet bar

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You guys who are using probabilities have this wrong. The odds are actually 7.5:1.. I was crapping my pants at first, thinking this was an oversight on party's part, until I realized it's 8 FOR 1. BUMMMMER.

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I hope this clears things up. Here is party's EV for $1 wagered on red (black is the same):

P(all red) = (26/52)*(25/51)*(24/50) = 2/17 = 1/8.5
Payoff: -$7
P(not all red) = 1 - P(all red) = 7.5/8.5
Payoff: +$1

EV: (1/8.5)*(-$7) + (7.5/8.5)*(+$1) = +$0.05(8823)

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Old 10-08-2005, 11:14 PM
UATrewqaz UATrewqaz is offline
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Default Re: Party Sidebet bar

"Ever wondered what it would be like make a separate bet on the flop?"

Um... no.
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Old 10-08-2005, 11:18 PM
Lurshy Lurshy is offline
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Dear Party Poker,

Please make the new sidebet bar & the black jack link go away. I find them annoying and distracting. They also make multi-table with overlap more of a pain...
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Old 10-08-2005, 11:22 PM
UATrewqaz UATrewqaz is offline
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Party Poker's crack software development team (I have a degree in CS and work as a software developer so I can make fun of them) has made it such that by removing (or simply renaming) the image files associated with the links they no longer appear.

When you load up the table there is probably a seperate sub-function that loads the blackjack and sidebet stuff, but when it cannot find the necessary files to do so those subfunctions fail, but do not cause the main function to error out.

They could have just as easily made it so that you got some generic "cannot find necessary file(s), please reinstall the software error"

Other sites (Poker Stars) operate like this, which is why you can't skin Poker Stars.
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Old 10-08-2005, 11:22 PM
Jimbo Jimbo is offline
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Dear Party Poker,

Please add more buttons, sidebars, flashing lights and popups. Anything you can do to distract and put this many players on tilt will help my bottom line.
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Old 10-08-2005, 11:23 PM
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35% chance you'll win with KQo in late position vs 3 opponents.

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The chances of you winning with this hand if all your opponents stay in until the river is different than the chances of winning this hand if you are able to drive out an opponent or two (perhaps holding an ace or something) with a raise or C/R.

It seems that your little idea depends on everyone staying in the hand...and obviously a good player should have an advantage here in driving out their opponents.
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