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Old 09-10-2005, 12:11 PM
SL__72 SL__72 is offline
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Default A couple hands, standard and horrible?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t8000 (8 handed) converter

CO (t79242)
Button (t134072)
SB (t46418)
Hero (t134158)
UTG (t132385)
UTG+1 (t265199)
MP1 (t105946)
MP2 (t65057)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t14800) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t38018 (All-In)</font>

Call, right?




PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t12000 (7 handed) converter

Hero (t46740)
BB (t139423)
UTG (t20976)
MP1 (t179484)
MP2 (t243396)
CO (t78770)
Button (t304801)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t24000</font>, BB calls t12000.

Flop: (t39600) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t22140 (All-In)</font>

Is there ANY merit in not just pushing preflop here? I was pissed at myself for this one.
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Old 09-10-2005, 12:23 PM
illini43 illini43 is offline
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Default Re: A couple hands, standard and horrible?

I call the first hand.

If your going to raise at all, why not push all of your chips in preflop??? You might make the BB fold instead of calling for only 12K more (about 10% of his remaining stack)
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Old 09-10-2005, 12:26 PM
bruce bruce is offline
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Default Re: A couple hands, standard and horrible?

Unless I have specific reads in hand 1 I give it up on the
flop. If he has an Ace what can you beat? You are risking
one third of your stack with a call. Unless you have good reason to think he has a Nine I fold. Would he raise BTF
if he had an Ace?

Hand 2 I push or fold BTF. On the flop I guess I push. You
don't have much FE with a bet, but you have lots of outs if
your opponent has something. You could conceivabley have up to 18 outs if your opponent calls with King high.

Bruce
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Old 09-10-2005, 12:56 PM
DyessMan89 DyessMan89 is offline
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Default Re: A couple hands, standard and horrible?

Hand 1: Fold.
Hand 2: Push PF. Not even close.
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Old 09-10-2005, 01:47 PM
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Default Re: A couple hands, standard and horrible?

Push preflop on both hands.

Definately call the push on the first hand. Villain could have a draw or be bluffing, figuring you don't have an ace since you checked preflop. It is a draw-heavy board. Even if villain has an ace, he probably has a higher kicker, but not high enough to keep it from being a split pot with the high board.
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Old 09-10-2005, 02:05 PM
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Default Re: A couple hands, standard and horrible?

I agree 100% with betgo.
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