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Old 08-19-2005, 09:06 AM
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Default Re: KK, so much raising, so confused

Agreed, my first thought upon reading thisthread was man that ass has Q9, prob suited. Good fold, but you might be able to fold earlier? the river action sucks because even though u made a set, its not good to often, if your going to call for outs, u need to be able to bet them if u hit...
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Old 08-19-2005, 11:19 AM
2+2 Junkie 2+2 Junkie is offline
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Default Re: KK, so much raising, so confused

Good to see no one suggested that I should have gone to showdown. I was wondering if folding was the right thing to do there, but it just seemed as though my outs were tainted, assuming I even had one. I would give myself one K if I was up against trips, and 0 outs against a flush and slim outs if they have two pair, considering 2 of the four cards would boat them and others would ensure a flush.
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Old 08-19-2005, 12:43 PM
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BB is loose, but extremely passive post flop (AF under 1 after 67 hands).

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You realize what a stupid number that is, right?
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Old 08-19-2005, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: KK, so much raising, so confused

i cap the flop, then i raise the turn.

calling one on the turn and then folding for one is bad, imho. you have no read on button and no reason to put him on a set alone. your read on BB is suspect. if he is very loose, an AF of 1 can mean very aggressive, not passive.
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Old 08-19-2005, 01:47 PM
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Default Re: KK, so much raising, so confused

Without a proper read it's a little hard to say, but it looks like your behind to at least two pair, at worst a set.

I doubt a tight passive would 3-bet a flush draw, although stranger things have happened. KK is hard for me to lay down in this situation, especially with the pot being decent sized, but I think I would fold the turn club even if I saw one off.
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Old 08-19-2005, 03:52 PM
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Default Re: KK, so much raising, so confused

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AQ also 3-bets preflop. I'll have to think more about capping the flop, but I'm 99% sure after Button's 3-bet that hero's behind.

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In a game with 3-5 players on the flop, SSH recommends folding AQo to a raise and cold-calling with AQs. Players playing by the "book" may very well not 3-bet PF.
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Old 08-19-2005, 05:00 PM
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Default Re: KK, so much raising, so confused

I would cap flop, fold turn to bet.
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Old 08-19-2005, 06:58 PM
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AQ also 3-bets preflop. I'll have to think more about capping the flop, but I'm 99% sure after Button's 3-bet that hero's behind.

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In a game with 3-5 players on the flop, SSH recommends folding AQo to a raise and cold-calling with AQs. Players playing by the "book" may very well not 3-bet PF.

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That's nice to think, but at Party Poker the likelyhood of that person playing by the book isn't too high.
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