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Old 05-03-2005, 11:10 AM
Ironman Ironman is offline
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Default Could someone comment on these numbers

I'd like to make some changes to my play before I spend the next 5000 hands playing poorly.

VP$IP: 29.52
W$SF: 22.35
WtSD: 32.96
W$SD: 55.93

I don't usually pay much attention to these, but I have a feeling the aggression numbers are low:

PRF: .56%
Flop Agg: .48
Turn Agg: .75
River Agg: 1.31

I feel like I am doing very little preflop raising (last night I don't think I raised before the flop at all in 2 hours)...the whole thing just feels passive.

Any comments are welcome and appreciated.
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Old 05-03-2005, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: Could someone comment on these numbers

looks slightly loose, and very passive to me.
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Old 05-03-2005, 01:19 PM
Cleveland Guy Cleveland Guy is offline
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Default Re: Could someone comment on these numbers

You should be making some pot building raises in late position when you have very good multi way hands.

This way when you hit scoop you will get paid more - raise to earn a bigger pot when you win, not so much to isolate.

Raising in Low limit omaha to isolate pre-flop doesn't really work well.
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Old 05-03-2005, 06:12 PM
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Default Re: Could someone comment on these numbers

Do you mean multiway as in solid potential for both high and low or do you just mean hands that do well with alot of people in the pot?

What are some examples?

My own numbers (although only 1500 hands) suggest that I'm very tight and very passive.

VPIP 15%
W$SF 30%
WTSD 36%
W$SD 67%

PFR 2.8%
Flop agg 0.76
Turn agg 0.57
River agg 1.05

Hi% 6.48
Low% 1.85
Scoop% 4.44

The Low$ looks very low, but that could be sample size. My PFR and postflop is very passive, and I think it means I'm definately too passive even in this sample. I do raise, but usually only if it won't knock many people in the pot.

My stats show that when I'm aggressive postflop I will usually win something, and when I make it to the river I nearly always win something, so it looks like I'm not chasing.

So I'm thinking I've really got to up my aggression and loosen up a little bit. I think I'm mainly missing playable high hands.
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Old 05-03-2005, 06:42 PM
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Default Re: Could someone comment on these numbers

1. It depends on what level you are talking about, as there can be some differences at different levels. Assuming this is low level (1-2 or so),
2. PFR is very passive. You are not raising your good hands in late position, where the benefit of getting more money in outweighs the cost of giving some of your hand away
3. Post flop is very passive, particularly flo and to lesser extent turn. You are a) not raising enough in an attempt to drive out some hands that would fold not but can catch up to beat you later, b) not getting enough money in when you have good equity but have not yet made your hand.
4. W$SD is a bit low, so is W$SF. Both of these may be related to you not putting enough money in when you are a favorite, and not driving out some weaker hands that then overtake you.
5. VPIP is a bit high, but this mistake won't hurt you as much as some others.

See some of Gooper MC’s recent threads for more discussion of PT data.

--Greg
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Old 05-03-2005, 06:52 PM
Cleveland Guy Cleveland Guy is offline
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[ QUOTE ]
Do you mean multiway as in solid potential for both high and low or do you just mean hands that do well with alot of people in the pot?

What are some examples?



[/ QUOTE ]

Both

Hands like AA35- DS
KKQJ-DS
A256-DS


etc
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Old 05-03-2005, 08:54 PM
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Default Re: Could someone comment on these numbers

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VP$IP: 29.52
W$SF: 22.35
WtSD: 32.96
W$SD: 55.93


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VP$IP: A little to high. I try to keep this in the 20-25 range.
W$SF: A little low but you could still make money with that number in very loose games. You would like to have this above 25.
W$SD: A lot to low. You want this in the low 60s, high 50s minimum.

[ QUOTE ]

PRF: .56%
Flop Agg: .48
Turn Agg: .75
River Agg: 1.31


[/ QUOTE ]
Overall too passive, as others said you need to be pushing more. To get my agression numbers up I have been working very hard on raising for value in late position. It has helped me so something you might want to try.
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