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Old 02-27-2005, 08:41 PM
wuarhg wuarhg is offline
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Default This felt wrong, Middle pair.

New to table, dude seems loose.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls.

Flop: (7.40 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, MP folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.70 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.70 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.70 BB
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Old 02-27-2005, 09:35 PM
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Default Re: This felt wrong, Middle pair.

I 3 bet the flop as it gives you a much better sense of where you are. If you get smooth called you can bet again on the turn. Easy fold if raised. If you get capped i think check/fold the turn is best bet.
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Old 02-28-2005, 12:23 AM
ISF ISF is offline
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Default Re: This felt wrong, Middle pair.

Once raised on the flop I would tend to take a check call bet fold line.
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Old 02-28-2005, 01:28 AM
Danenania Danenania is offline
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Default Re: This felt wrong, Middle pair.

I like your line best against an unknown. Some players go absolutely haywire with any cards on a board like this so I want to see a showdown--throwing in more raises might put this in jeopardy.
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Old 02-28-2005, 01:58 AM
Schneids Schneids is offline
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Default Re: This felt wrong, Middle pair.

Perfectly fine. No need to do anything fancy for more "info" the only info you need is that you've got a hand that's worthy of showdown and there are a lot of people that will continue betting worse hands or bluffs with great frequency.
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Old 02-28-2005, 02:01 AM
King Yao King Yao is offline
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Default Re: This felt wrong, Middle pair.

I wouldn't have raised pre-Flop...but I do think your post-Flop play was good.
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Old 02-28-2005, 06:00 AM
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Default Re: This felt wrong, Middle pair.

Just call down, you'll be ahead most times because a king will usually wait for the turn/river.

He likely has a J or a flush draw, raising does nothing except cost you bets (he folds a J and unimproved flushdraw instead of bluffing the river).
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Old 02-28-2005, 06:26 AM
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Default Re: This felt wrong, Middle pair.

agree
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Old 02-28-2005, 09:16 AM
wuarhg wuarhg is offline
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Default Re: This felt wrong, Middle pair.

Thanks for clearing that up. I suppose the Pre-flop raise was a bit bad since the guy was generally loose and I had a small chance of buying the button, Was that the reason you thought a Pre-flop raise was not the best idea, King Yao?
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Old 02-28-2005, 10:44 PM
obithrawn obithrawn is offline
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Default Re: This felt wrong, Middle pair.

Are there any cards that would make you fold the turn/river after chosing to call down?

Say the Ah falls and adds both and overcard and completes the flush, does it change your plan any?
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