I don't like my line here (2/4 6-max)

[Ghazban]

Villain is on the button, I am in the SB. Villain has been opening for $12 almost every time its folded to him on the button. For the most part, I've been giving up my SB without a fight or calling, getting a horrible flop, and check/folding. Villain is fairly LAG preflop, but seem to play decently postflop. He plays a lot of trouble hands (weak aces, suited K-rag, etc.) but hasn't shown down any of them as losers so he's either getting away when he's no good or running hot.

Folded to him, he opens for $12 on the button. I ($400) call in the SB w/8c6c. BB calls, too. Villain covers.

Flop: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($36)

Check, check, villain bets $35, I call, BB folds.

Turn: Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($136)

I really want him to have made a flush... I check, he bets $100, I call.

River 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($336)

I push



Edited to fix river card

[TheWorstPlayer]

Wow, I really like to check/raise this flop. It's pretty nasty against this guy I think. Says you are very weak.

[Ghazban]

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Wow, I really like to check/raise this flop. It's pretty nasty against this guy I think. Says you are very weak.

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I thought letting him fire a 2nd barrel if he has nothing on the turn was a superior play to letting him off easy on the flop. Doesn't checkraising the flop only get more money in if he's actually got something and wasn't raising ATC?

[TheWorstPlayer]

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Wow, I really like to check/raise this flop. It's pretty nasty against this guy I think. Says you are very weak.

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I thought letting him fire a 2nd barrel if he has nothing on the turn was a superior play to letting him off easy on the flop. Doesn't checkraising the flop only get more money in if he's actually got something and wasn't raising ATC?

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Against me and it sounds like against this guy, too, check/raising this flop will make you a lot of money. It will look like a bluff/semi-bluff and I will call to let you fire again on the turn and then push the turn quite often.

[thatpfunk]

Any idea how would he respond to you donk betting the turn
1/3 pot?
1/2 pot?
3/4 pot?
full pot?

If he plays well postflop then you aren't going to be getting much more from him when he has nothing. If he does have something, then I think you get a lot more money in by leading...

fwiw, I lead so many flops I probably lead this one, but that is pretty specific in regards to how you are playing.

[gunslingner]

I think the best line here is to lead the turn(2/3 pot).

[Ghazban]

Given that he hasn't seen me make any semibluff checkraises, does that lower the likelihood of him believing a flop checkraise to be one?

[mudbuddha]

wouldnt a min raise on the turn make him more likely to call a push on the river?

what a crappy river btw..

[xorbie]

I don't think you got nearly enough in on the turn. Leading for $90 is what I would do here, he might fold 88-JJ but he'll get a ton of money in with a nut flush or Kx[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]/Ax[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] type hand and if he does have K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q or something he'll call/raise as well.

Basically, hands which will put money in on that turn and call the river push will probably get it in on the turn anyway, plus a bunch of hands which will fold to that river will also get it in on the turn.

[Ghazban]

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Basically, hands which will put money in on that turn and call the river push will probably get it in on the turn anyway, plus a bunch of hands which will fold to that river will also get it in on the turn.

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Good post. I didn't think about it from that angle during the hand.