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Old 05-24-2005, 04:31 AM
stlip stlip is offline
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Default Re: Is this too weak or saving bets?

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Felt like the right move

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How could it?

If he's on a draw you're ahead. If he's got a K you've got implied pot odds that still justify a call.

I also don't know how many times you want people to see you raise preflop, bet the flop and then fold to one bet. Frankly, if you would do it with this hand, I'm sure it's a somewhat standard line from you. Some players are going to notice that and hurt you with it.

Without reads, and in the 1/2 games I play in on Party, I don't see what purpose a turn raise serves here. Being 3-bet would be a disaster. It's not really a free card play because CO is behind you. CO might be on the same draw as villain so letting them both pay to most likely miss is +EV.
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Old 05-24-2005, 04:34 AM
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Default Re: Is this too weak or saving bets?

This was hand specific, yea. Were the pot any bigger I might've called down or raised. I'm still not sure. Not happy with how I played it.

The fear is he had something like KQ and I'm the freaking calling station. But I have to get over that kind of thinking.
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Old 05-24-2005, 05:34 AM
chiachu chiachu is offline
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Default Re: Is this too weak or saving bets?

id fold... but im weak [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]
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Old 05-24-2005, 05:49 AM
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Default Re: Is this too weak or saving bets?

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id fold... but im weak [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

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Depends on why you'd fold. If you folded because you have a read that tells you either the J or A outs are tainted you can easily fold this. If you read that your opponent will not give any action on the river in this scenario when an A or J hits then you can fold here.

But if you folded simply because he could have a K and a K beats me then yes that is weak...
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Old 05-24-2005, 10:27 AM
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Default Re: Is this too weak or saving bets?

I'd probably fold this too, but I think you should call it down without a read. He could be betting when he picked up a flush draw.
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Old 05-24-2005, 10:36 AM
krishanleong krishanleong is offline
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Default Re: Is this too weak or saving bets?

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Against a "typical" PS 1/2 Full Ring player, I'd say raise. The odds are there to chase your five outer, and the average player will likely end up checking to you on the river if you raise. here. I've been finding raising the turn for a free showdown is pretty effective.

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I agree. Getting a handle on donkbet tendancies is good.

Krishan
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Old 05-24-2005, 10:38 AM
Stinkybeaver Stinkybeaver is offline
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Default Re: Is this too weak or saving bets?

I always call this, believeing he hit a K or two pair which is why I tend to fold the river UI is this very bad or..?
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Old 05-24-2005, 01:13 PM
txdolly txdolly is offline
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Default Re: Is this too weak or saving bets?

I think your line was right here. Although you might want to consider if the turn was different, checking on the flop and raising on the river to protect your hand. Am I wrong in thinking this line?
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Old 05-24-2005, 01:24 PM
PokerCat69 PokerCat69 is offline
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Default Re: Is this too weak or saving bets?

If u called the turn, and the river is a blank, are you calling a bet as well?
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Old 05-24-2005, 01:29 PM
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Default Re: Is this too weak or saving bets?

No way I am folding this, you got odds to draw.
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