Two Plus Two Older Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Older Archives > Limit Texas Hold'em > Medium Stakes Hold'em

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-23-2005, 11:28 PM
jason_t jason_t is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Another downswing?
Posts: 2,274
Default 10/20 Q9s

Loose passives everywhere.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (9 max, 8 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: I am MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, I call, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (5.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">I bet</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Button folds, BB folds, UTG calls, I call.

Turn: (5.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">I raise</font>
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-23-2005, 11:54 PM
brettbrettr brettbrettr is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 1
Default Re: 10/20 Q9s

Is there something about UTG that makes you think your 9's are good here?

Pre-flop is debatable, but you know when its ok to limp with this hand in this spot and I'm not going to question it.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-23-2005, 11:57 PM
jason_t jason_t is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Another downswing?
Posts: 2,274
Default Re: 10/20 Q9s

[ QUOTE ]
Is there something about UTG that makes you think your 9's are good here?

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm fairly certain I'm behind. But I have a monster draw.

[ QUOTE ]
Pre-flop is debatable, but you know when its ok to limp with this hand in this spot and I'm not going to question it.

[/ QUOTE ]

Good boy. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-23-2005, 11:58 PM
Bremen Bremen is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 178
Default Re: 10/20 Q9s

Is there a point to raising? Against loose-passives I expect to be ahead almost never. I also expect them to rarely fold. You also have about 1/3rd equity (not counting the Q's as outs) so you're not really getting value out of it...
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-24-2005, 12:05 AM
brettbrettr brettbrettr is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 1
Default Re: 10/20 Q9s

[ QUOTE ]

I'm fairly certain I'm behind. But I have a monster draw.

[/ QUOTE ]

Don't drawing hands like customers? I don't get why you're trying to shut people out here.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-24-2005, 12:12 AM
dave44 dave44 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 4
Default Re: 10/20 Q9s

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

I'm fairly certain I'm behind. But I have a monster draw.

[/ QUOTE ]

Don't drawing hands like customers? I don't get why you're trying to shut people out here.

[/ QUOTE ]
Me neither. When UTG wakes up on this board I doubt your fold equity is enough to compensate for the extra bet you put in. Plus you keep the third guy from calling with hands that don't compromise your outs at all which is a decent portion of a bet in your pocket.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-24-2005, 12:38 AM
jason_t jason_t is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Another downswing?
Posts: 2,274
Default Re: 10/20 Q9s

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

I'm fairly certain I'm behind. But I have a monster draw.

[/ QUOTE ]

Don't drawing hands like customers? I don't get why you're trying to shut people out here.

[/ QUOTE ]

I have twenty outs to an almost sure win. That gives me ~40% equity in this pot.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-24-2005, 01:21 AM
blumpkin22 blumpkin22 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 32
Default Re: 10/20 Q9s

The [censored] Inessa! That bitch!
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-24-2005, 01:47 AM
BigEndian BigEndian is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 937
Default Re: 10/20 Q9s

Looks ok to me as long as you don't go crazy and bet the river if you whiff.

- Jim
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-24-2005, 02:15 AM
CardSharpCook CardSharpCook is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: South of Heaven
Posts: 746
Default Re: 10/20 Q9s

There is a benifit to having him bet into on the river. Having 2 bets go in when you have 40% eq is not nearly as good as having 2 bets go in when you have 100% eq. The way you play it is fine though.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:35 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.