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Old 04-12-2005, 04:30 AM
helpmeout helpmeout is offline
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Default Thoughts on open limping in early position

Assume a typical PP 15 game.

1 very loose player who will see most flops for 1-2bets

1-2 semi-loose players who will call with average hands, you know the 30-40VPIP types.

Rest of the table are TAGs

What do you think about open limping with these hands in early position?

KQs KJs QJs QTs JTs 77 A9s A8s
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Old 04-12-2005, 06:10 AM
the alex the alex is offline
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Default Re: Thoughts on open limping in early position

Personally, unless the game is shorthanded, I never limp as the first person to act in the front 3 unless we're talking about a loose-passive table where I know that I will get good odds to see flops with these weak-marginal hands. If you don't see winning a lot of BB's coming from your limp, don't play.

This situation is one where you're looking to expoit the few bad players all over and the tight players in the back. Your table still has too many good players to play weak and enough bad players to pounce on.

I say fold these hands.
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Old 04-12-2005, 06:17 AM
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Default Re: Thoughts on open limping in early position

I would never fold KQs in an unraised pot from any position.
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Old 04-12-2005, 06:55 AM
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Default Re: Thoughts on open limping in early position

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What do you think about open limping with these hands in early position?

KQs KJs QJs QTs JTs 77 A9s A8s

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KQs - raise
KJs-JTs - limp
77 - I like to limp though I believe there are merits for all 3
A9s-A8s - fold

I think this is pretty standard though the overly tight guys are mucking those suited broadways up front.
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Old 04-12-2005, 07:57 AM
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Default Re: Thoughts on open limping in early position

i dont like playing ace rag suited from any position let only early postion.
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Old 04-12-2005, 09:36 AM
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Default Re: Thoughts on open limping in early position

Limping with all of them is fine by me.

I would raise KQs
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Old 04-12-2005, 09:53 AM
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Default Re: Thoughts on open limping in early position

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Limping with all of them is fine by me.

I would raise KQs

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Old 04-12-2005, 10:25 AM
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Default Re: Thoughts on open limping in early position

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Assume a typical PP 15 game.

1 very loose player who will see most flops for 1-2bets

1-2 semi-loose players who will call with average hands, you know the 30-40VPIP types.

Rest of the table are TAGs

What do you think about open limping with these hands in early position?

KQs KJs QJs QTs JTs 77 A9s A8s

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If the loose players are on my imidiate left I can see myself limping with KJs, QJs, 77, A9s and A8s.

KQs I would raise half the time and limp half the time regardless.

QTs and JTs are folds in EP for me. The are just to easily dominated to play out of position.
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Old 04-12-2005, 10:29 AM
shmahappens shmahappens is offline
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Default Re: Thoughts on open limping in early position

Agreed with previous, except minus the Axs. If the loose players are directly to the left of me (so they'll call before being raised out by the TAGs) makes KJs JQs J10s limpable, and since you're never gauranteed to get the right number of callers, probably just muck 77. KQs easy raise.
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Old 04-12-2005, 07:00 PM
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Default Re: Thoughts on open limping in early position

So the consensus is pretty much play KQs and dump the rest unless you are at an overly loose table where 5+ people will see a flop.

Guess I'll have to tighten up a bit.
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