JJ fold

Chris Daddy Cool · #1 02-10-2005, 07:50 AM

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

UTG+1 is a 17/8/1.7 player and MP1 is a 36/12/0.4 player

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises, UTG+1 3-bets, MP1 calls, 5 folds, BB calls, Hero caps, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, BB calls.

Flop: (16.66 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, MP1 3-bets, BB calls, Hero folds...

private joker · #2 02-10-2005, 08:09 AM

*yawn* Next hand...

Tosh · #3 02-10-2005, 08:11 AM

You do look screwed here for sure, I fold too.

Nick C · #4 02-10-2005, 08:12 AM

I wouldn't make this fold, but I can see how the TA-N's flop raise followed by the 3-bet by MP1, who is ordinarily passive postflop (but, in this hand, makes a suspiciously and uncharacteristically passive preflop cold-call) could make it correct.

I'm thinking MP1 probably has AA or a set (though I guess something like 87s is also possible, which would also be a big problem).

I'm also thinking I'm not ready for 15/30.

crunchy1 · #5 02-10-2005, 10:56 AM

What was your reasoning behing capping it PF?

Chris Daddy Cool · #6 02-10-2005, 10:57 AM

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What was your reasoning behing capping it PF?

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Are you serious?

PokerBob · #7 02-10-2005, 12:19 PM

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My guess is that hero feels that his pot equity at this moment is substantially greater than 25%, especially if the villains are sharing each others outs with hands like AK and AQ.

MaxPower · #8 02-10-2005, 12:21 PM

Is .4 his post flop-aggression? Thats pretty low for someone so loose and aggressive pre-flop. Seems like he must have a big hand.

If that is based on a large number of hands I like your fold.

If not, I am not yet convinced that you are behind. If the same action repeats on the turn, I would be convinced.

I try not to read too much into flop aggression, especially when the pot is big.

crunchy1 · #9 02-10-2005, 12:42 PM

Yes... but I guess asking for more info/trying to learn something is wrong.... sorry for wasting space in your thread..

Tosh · #10 02-10-2005, 01:07 PM

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Are you serious?

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I think you're overly harsh here. While it is probably better to cap preflop I doubt there's much in it. I can't exactly see UTG+1 3 betting with 99.