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08-10-2005, 12:01 PM
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Got lost at the turn, or was it the flop
Party Poker (8 handed)
Villian is UTG. After 50 hands - TAG with 17 VPIP, aggressive post flop. Hero's table image should be viewed as TAG Party Poker $2/4 (8 handed) Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666"> UTG calls. 6 folds</font>. Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero bets, villian raises, hero re-raises, villian caps Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, UTG bets, Hero ? 
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#5
08-10-2005, 12:16 PM
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Re: Got lost at the turn, or was it the flop
Ummm.... what in god's name are you doing three-betting this flop?
You have A high and gutshot on a monotone board against an opponent who seems to play reasonably well.
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#6
08-10-2005, 12:31 PM
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Re: Got lost at the turn, or was it the flop
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It might be just me, but I'm folding to the flop raise. [/ QUOTE ] Good point. I can't tell the pot size here since the pre-flop is messed up. I'm assuming hero raised, bb folds, and villian calls. This would be 8sb's when it comes back to us. There are 3 non-spade queens, and 2 non-spade aces that help us. Villians range given his flop raise is something like KQ, KJ, KT, QJ, QT, AT. Some of these have us reverse dominated, so we have somewhere around 4 outs or so. I see a fold now, even if we have very very marginal odds to call, the fact that we can re-drawn on the river by another spade definitely tilts the scale here.
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#7
08-10-2005, 12:32 PM
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Re: Got lost at the turn, or was it the flop
I guess I got a little cocky on the flop. Needless to say it was the flop where I got lost - not the turn.
I folded the turn bet and someone asked why I folded. Guess I shouldn't have been in the hand that far anyway. Lesson learned!
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#8
08-10-2005, 12:34 PM
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Re: Got lost at the turn, or was it the flop
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Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero bets, villian raises, hero re-raises, villian caps [/ QUOTE ] Needless Spew. You lost this hand PF when you didn't raise. Your just aggravating the situation now. Sarge[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
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#9
08-10-2005, 12:53 PM
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Re: Got lost at the turn, or was it the flop
I'm new to this converter thing. I "did" raise pre-flop. I guess I missed it in the conversion. Does that make a differnce? With the flop re-raise? Is it still a fold?
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#10
08-10-2005, 01:28 PM
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Re: Got lost at the turn, or was it the flop
Raise preflop. It changes the entire hand.
Why did you 3-bet the flop raise? Regardless, once the flop is capped, there's really no way you should put another bet into the pot. You're beat.
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