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Old 08-10-2005, 11:26 AM
SmileyEH SmileyEH is offline
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Default Stupid *isolation* pf question

A bad player limps in EP, you have 88-66 (any position) with tightish blinds and no noteworthy players behind. I've been raising in this spot everytime....word?

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Old 08-10-2005, 11:30 AM
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A bad player limps in EP, you have 88-66 (any position) with tightish blinds and no noteworthy players behind. I've been raising in this spot everytime....word?

-SmileyEH

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I want to be in lateish position or know that ALL the players behind me are tight. I want this hand HU.

Label your posts like "Preflop isolation question" instead of "Stupid pf question." [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 08-10-2005, 11:36 AM
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I have been pretty liberal in doing this. But I think I screw it up sometimes.

I like to be in MP-LMP with the majority of the players behind me tight.

If the BB is loose and a bad player, I will still raise, because usually 66-88 is miles ahead of what he has. So I don't mind playing it against (2) bad passive players.

If the blinds are LAGGY, I don't like doing this too much.
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Old 08-10-2005, 11:42 AM
W. Deranged W. Deranged is offline
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Default Re: Stupid *isolation* pf question

Smiley,

I raise quite liberally with 88 anyway (at some point I just decided that I liked it enough to start raising with it more often). I'll raise with 77 rarely and 66 only in specified isolation situations. Personally, with 66 or 77, I want to be able to expect that I'll get the hand heads up a very good portion of the time (let's make up a number... uhh... like 60%). More importantly, I want to expect that all the players behind me will fold out even more often than that (if a blind comes along I'm okay, but I want position): let's say 80% of the time.

I don't think you can expect everyone to fold out behind you all that often unless you are raising from like the Hijack or better. Button - 3 maybe in certain situations if you have a tight read on the three behind you.
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Old 08-10-2005, 11:51 AM
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Default Re: Stupid *isolation* pf question

the closer to the limper you sit and the more loose passive are those that follow you, the more you need to consider limping (rather than raising).

Raising this all the time is lagass.
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Old 08-10-2005, 11:56 AM
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I raise quite liberally with 88 anyway (at some point I just decided that I liked it enough to start raising with it more often).

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Same here. I use to be very cautious with 99, then got comfortable with it but was still very cautious with 88; now I'm not.
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Old 08-10-2005, 11:57 AM
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Does anyone know how to make a pokertracker filter like: "raised PF after one limper"?

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Old 08-10-2005, 11:58 AM
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I raise 77 UTG at almost every table.
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Old 08-10-2005, 12:00 PM
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I raise 77 UTG at almost every table.

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I limp at loose ones, raise at tight ones....so usually limp.

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Old 08-10-2005, 12:01 PM
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I raise 77 UTG at almost every table.

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I limp at loose ones, raise at tight ones....so usually limp.

-SmileyEH

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I raise at loose 20/40 tables where I expect 2 coldcallers.
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