What is a bad beat?

Tater10 · #1 07-18-2005, 09:35 AM

Typical bubble play. Dealt 4c 6c, you need chips and push. You get called (uh oh), villain rolls Ah Kd. You know you are 41% to win right now.

Scenario #1: You flop the flush, villan is drawing dead. You double up.

Scenario #2: 4 blanks, but you spike a 6 on the river and double up.

Scenario #3: Flop come A K 3, Turn 7, River 5. You double up.

In each of these, villain says:
villain: What a load of XXXX you lucky XXXX

Are all of these bad beats? All your money went into the middle when you were a 2:3 underdog, which I dont think qualifies as a bad beat (45% is called a 'race').

Is there a cutoff? I consider AQ beating AK a bad beat, or 55 beating JJ a bad beat. I dont believe AK beating QQ a bad beat.

Phill S · #2 07-18-2005, 09:40 AM

Cant remember who it was but someone on this forum stated that a bad beat should be thought of as losing when 90% favourite.

And if anyone thinks they are hard done by, send them here to see a real bad beat at the worst moment imaginable.

Phill

wulfheir · #3 07-18-2005, 10:27 AM

This is a bad beat.

Freudian · #4 07-18-2005, 10:31 AM

I had a guy stalk me for an hour pointing out how poorly I played. My crime? I knocked him out in 3rd (blinds 250/500) when I pushed all-in for 2.5k with A8o. He called with KQo and lost and couldn't believe how poorly I played.

So that is my new standard for a bad beat.