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Old 11-26-2005, 11:35 PM
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Default AQ facing a turn donk bet

What are your thoughts on this? Is the fold standard? I'm also concerned about the flop play, so comments about any street are welcome.

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Villain was on his way to earning TAG stats, after 50 hands he was 16/7/2.5

Party Poker 3.00/6.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (5.33 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: (4.67 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 5.67 BB.
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Old 11-26-2005, 11:44 PM
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Default Re: AQ facing a turn donk bet

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What are your thoughts on this? Is the fold standard? I'm also concerned about the flop play, so comments about any street are welcome.

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Villain was on his way to earning TAG stats, after 50 hands he was 16/7/2.5

Party Poker 3.00/6.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (5.33 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: (4.67 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 5.67 BB.

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My first thought was this is an easy fold. But....
What could he have that has you beaten seeing how he didn't raise preflop? Wouldn't he raise with k/q? He surely would have raised with a/q or a/k. He may be on a flush draw with a pair. 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]/8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or something like that.
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Old 11-26-2005, 11:47 PM
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Default Re: AQ facing a turn donk bet

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What are your thoughts on this? Is the fold standard? I'm also concerned about the flop play, so comments about any street are welcome.

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Villain was on his way to earning TAG stats, after 50 hands he was 16/7/2.5

Party Poker 3.00/6.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (5.33 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: (4.67 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 5.67 BB.

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My first thought was this is an easy fold. But....
What could he have that has you beaten seeing how he didn't raise preflop? Wouldn't he raise with k/q? He surely would have raised with a/q or a/k. He may be on a flush draw with a pair. 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]/8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or something like that.

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I like the fold- Many people won;t raise KQ utg, and will also limp with hands like KJ and K10. I think the donk bet represents a better hand than a draw. He probably thought you were raising light and didn't want to give you a free card.
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Old 11-27-2005, 12:28 AM
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Default Re: AQ facing a turn donk bet

I'd fold because he's a TAG, but call down if he was a LAG.
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Old 11-27-2005, 12:54 AM
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Default Re: AQ facing a turn donk bet

He also donked the flop. He has QJs.

Raise! (the turn)
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Old 11-27-2005, 01:26 AM
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Default Re: AQ facing a turn donk bet

Im new to this concept of what a donk bet is? Is there a old post somewhere that explains it?

I read that check-calling the flop and then betting the turn was a donk thing to do, but other than that I havent seen that term much until I joined 2+2.
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Old 11-27-2005, 01:28 AM
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Default Re: AQ facing a turn donk bet

i think this fold is really bad. Call down. He could be betting alot of worse hands on the turn. Plus u have outs if he has a K.
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Old 11-27-2005, 03:56 AM
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If you assume that villian is going to call UTG and then call a raise UTG with no other callers with only a very decent hand, maybe KTs at worst, then I think you have to assume that his flop bet and turn bet after calling your flop raise mean that your hand is no good unless you improve.
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Old 11-27-2005, 04:46 AM
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Default Re: AQ facing a turn donk bet

How about a simple call down line?
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Old 11-27-2005, 04:58 AM
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Default Re: AQ facing a turn donk bet

I would fold here against those stats but I play bad.

I think this is a call down.
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