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Old 10-25-2005, 10:42 AM
GtrHtr GtrHtr is offline
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Default A discussion on calling standards

I play a fairly tight calling range when the pusher is not a shorty. What is your play here with 7.5 BB after posting?

***** Hand History for Game 2862701975 *****
200/400 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 16482688) - Mon Oct 24 20:51:51 EDT 2005
Table Table 35064 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: michael (1970)
Seat 4: thenagain (1740)
Seat 7: SMU (1495)
Seat 9: Griper (1065)
Seat 10: Hero (1730)
Griper posts small blind (100)
Hero posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Jh, Js ]
michael folds.
thenagain folds.
SMU folds.
Griper raises (965) to 1065
Griper is all-In.
Hero?

What is your calling range in this situation? Example: AK+, TT+
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Old 10-25-2005, 10:44 AM
Melchiades Melchiades is offline
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Default Re: A discussion on calling standards

Call.
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Old 10-25-2005, 10:50 AM
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Default Re: A discussion on calling standards

J's in the BB against a SB push? Auto call and it is not close. I would guess he probably has one over card.
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Old 10-25-2005, 10:54 AM
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Default Re: A discussion on calling standards

What they said.

Edit: it gets more interesting if you'd answer some questions like 'has he pushed a lot before?', 'is he tight or loose?', 'is he aggressive or passive?'. This way you can put him on a range of hands and you can calculate stuff.

If he has folded every single hand up until now (not likely [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]) he might have AA!
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Old 10-25-2005, 11:01 AM
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Default Re: A discussion on calling standards

Good point. The pusher played a lot like me. Very tight early, and was opening up his game in level 5. He wasn't a pushing maniac but was picking his spots.
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Old 10-25-2005, 11:04 AM
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Default Re: A discussion on calling standards

this is not even close
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Old 10-25-2005, 11:10 AM
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Default Re: A discussion on calling standards

As usual, this can be answered with math (and subsequently through $EV analysis). Furthermore, once you consider that he has 5 BBs preflop, and that he is the short stack, you'll realize his range here is enormous. I am absolutely certain JJ will fair very well here against his range. In fact, I think it correct for him to be pushing top 50% of hands at least. I would think that the 4th best starting hand would fair well against that range.
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Old 10-25-2005, 11:11 AM
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Good point. The pusher played a lot like me. Very tight early, and was opening up his game in level 5. He wasn't a pushing maniac but was picking his spots.

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If he plays 2+2 style (tight early, loose/aggressive late), he could have a lot of hands. Especially if he's seen you folding to raises a lot. I'd have any two there. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-25-2005, 11:12 AM
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Default Re: A discussion on calling standards

Ok, so I picked a poor hand to post for this "discussion."

I am really curious what your calling ranges are in this situation.
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Old 10-25-2005, 11:18 AM
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Default Re: A discussion on calling standards

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Call.

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Quickly, too.
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