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Old 10-10-2005, 04:59 PM
TimM TimM is offline
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selling liquor to a minor resulting in death (Felony)

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This law is results oriented.
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Old 10-10-2005, 05:00 PM
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No, I understood that your reply was to the other poster. I'm not presenting an argument against it being 21 either, all I'm saying is that it seems silly to me to have it at 21. I'm not backing that up with facts or evidence, it's just an opinion.
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Old 10-10-2005, 05:07 PM
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Good point.
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Old 10-10-2005, 05:09 PM
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No, I understood that your reply was to the other poster. I'm not presenting an argument against it being 21 either, all I'm saying is that it seems silly to me to have it at 21. I'm not backing that up with facts or evidence, it's just an opinion.

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No matter what age you set it at, it's going to seem to silly.
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Old 10-10-2005, 05:11 PM
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No, I understood that your reply was to the other poster. I'm not presenting an argument against it being 21 either, all I'm saying is that it seems silly to me to have it at 21. I'm not backing that up with facts or evidence, it's just an opinion.

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No matter what age you set it at, it's going to seem to silly.

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18 doesn't seem silly to me at least.
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Old 10-10-2005, 05:12 PM
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Default Re: WTF happened to personal responsibility?

The short answer is.

"21 year olds will buy 18 year olds beer, and that's probably ok".

"18 year olds will buy 15 year olds beer, and that might not be".

I can almost understand that.
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Old 10-10-2005, 05:14 PM
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A frat is an organization, and it is expected that the organization shall not provide under-aged kids (who are not responsible enough to keep under their limit), with alchohol.

This doesn't surprise me at all. Sure it sucks, but such is life.
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Old 10-10-2005, 05:18 PM
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The short answer is.

"21 year olds will buy 18 year olds beer, and that's probably ok".

"18 year olds will buy 15 year olds beer, and that might not be".

I can almost understand that.

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I'm pretty sure that the current age is not set on this basis nor will this ever be a factor.
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Old 10-10-2005, 05:30 PM
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If it isn't, it's at least logic that I can slightly support. I have a feeling that this reasoning was used to some extent, but that's a total guess.

For instance, 18 year olds can drink on post/base, which removes them from the context of underage kids.
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Old 10-10-2005, 05:36 PM
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If it isn't, it's at least logic that I can slightly support. I have a feeling that this reasoning was used to some extent, but that's a total guess.

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I seriously doubt it. The drinking age is almost surely predicated on issues of responsibility and safety.

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For instance, 18 year olds can drink on post/base, which removes them from the context of underage kids.

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If by "18 year olds" you mean "18 year olds in the service", I think the expectation is that they are more mature and responsible than the average 18 year old because they've been through formal disciplining etc.
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