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#1
12-19-2005, 02:09 PM
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AKs gets raised oop
Bad place to cbet? Do you ever cbet if you get raised and miss? got none of them fancy read things
Paradise Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font> Hero ($51.75) MP ($43.75) Button ($20.75) SB ($48.25) BB ($10.75) Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $7.5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $4.50. Flop: ($15.75) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $20</font>, Hero folds. Final Pot: $45.75 
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#2
12-19-2005, 02:12 PM
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Re: AKs gets raised oop
this is not a good place for a c-bet. c/f this flop...
don't c-bet in other peoples pots, especially on that flop after being raised PF.
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#3
12-19-2005, 02:40 PM
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Re: AKs gets raised oop
Do you call preflop? I'm OOP with a marginal hand compared to his hand range, which by default I assign AQ+,TT+ (and possibly hands like AJ and 77-99). Are these default hand ranges anywhere close?
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#5
12-19-2005, 03:12 PM
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Re: AKs gets raised oop
- Raise 4xbb, not 12xbb. 12xbb is way too much.
- If you bet the standard raise, it would have given you room to reraise, which is something you'd want to do with one of the best starting hands in the game. - Why are you betting the flop when you gave up the lead preflop? You also got NO part of that flop. Check/fold.
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#6
12-19-2005, 03:21 PM
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Re: AKs gets raised oop
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- Raise 4xbb, not 12xbb. 12xbb is way too much. - If you bet the standard raise, it would have given you room to reraise, which is something you'd want to do with one of the best starting hands in the game. - Why are you betting the flop when you gave up the lead preflop? You also got NO part of that flop. Check/fold. [/ QUOTE ] Even though it says $.25 BB, I think it is $.50BB (NL50), thus a 6xBB raise. OP: c/f this flop.
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#7
12-19-2005, 04:52 PM
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Re: AKs gets raised oop
Do you guys just call the RR PF here?
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#8
12-19-2005, 06:15 PM
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Re: AKs gets raised oop
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Do you guys just call the RR PF here? [/ QUOTE ] 3-betting is not good IMO. Folding is ok if you have no reads- this is a very hard hand to play OOP in a big pot. Calling is fine, but be prepared for some TOUGH decisions on the flop if you hit an A or K.
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#9
12-19-2005, 11:26 PM
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Re: AKs gets raised oop
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Bad place to cbet? Do you ever cbet if you get raised and miss? got none of them fancy read things [/ QUOTE ] Well, MP took the lead from you here. I don’t lead un-improved here very often. Barring a GREAT read. On the flop, if I find a c-bet it would be $13-15, I don’t believe you have a hand. [ QUOTE ] this is not a good place for a c-bet. c/f this flop... don't c-bet in other peoples pots, especially on that flop after being raised PF. [/ QUOTE ] unlucky, I’m not check/folding before the flop, that’s too weak-tight. This is AKo. AQo I definitely muck, OOP.
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#10
12-20-2005, 12:19 AM
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Re: AKs gets raised oop
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unlucky, I’m not check/folding before the flop, that’s too weak-tight. This is AKo. AQo I definitely muck, OOP. [/ QUOTE ] I routinely fold AKo vs this kind of reraise against players with tight reraising standards (TT++, AK). Even if he's reraising with AQo, we are most likely an underdog since we are out of position.
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