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Old 11-09-2005, 01:07 PM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default flopped a boat.. now what?

last 2 tables of empire $100. top 10 pay. we just got here, but i know the the pfr'er does not raise very much pre-flop.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

CO (t7670)
Button (t5713)
Hero (t4865)
BB (t3325)
UTG (t2615)
UTG+1 (t2890)
UTG+2 (t2341)
MP1 (t5775)
MP2 (t6470)
MP3 (t2074)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t300</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls t225, BB calls t150.

Flop: (t900) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
hero?
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Old 11-09-2005, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: flopped a boat.. now what?

check/call, lead turn?
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Old 11-09-2005, 01:11 PM
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Default Re: flopped a boat.. now what?

Check and call flop and turn. If he keeps leading pop him on the river.
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Old 11-09-2005, 01:18 PM
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Default Re: flopped a boat.. now what?

Why not bet and give him proper odds on a flush draw? He may also call thinking his pp is still good. Didn't a poster previously declare fastplaying to be the new slowplay??
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Old 11-09-2005, 01:24 PM
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Default Re: flopped a boat.. now what?

fold, someone could have the other pair of 9's.
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Old 11-09-2005, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: flopped a boat.. now what?

I lead with an underfull OOP, to give the chance for the PFR to raise and start building this pot on the flop, so the bets on all subsequent streets are nice and big.

If he raises, then I call, check the turn and see what he does.

EDIT: If a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] comes off on the turn I lead so he can push me off my bluff/draw

If he commits himself on the turn, I put him all in.

If he doesn't commit to the turn I call and lead the river.

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Woodguy
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Old 11-09-2005, 02:30 PM
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Default Re: flopped a boat.. now what?

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check/call, lead turn?

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This is used to give you more fold equity... not something you want to do here.

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I lead into him, if he doesnt raise much like you said, his chances of having an overpair get pretty nice and i cant imagine him not raising you with a pair.

So yea, i lead into him for like a half-pot bet.
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Old 11-09-2005, 02:32 PM
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Default Re: flopped a boat.. now what?

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I lead with an underfull OOP, to give the chance for the PFR to raise and start building this pot on the flop, so the bets on all subsequent streets are nice and big.

If he raises, then I call, check the turn and see what he does.

If he commits himself on the turn, I put him all in.

If he doesn't commit to the turn I call and lead the river.

Regards,
Woodguy

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Works for me. Either this guy has a hand (read: overpair) or he doesn't, and if he does then a checkraise scares him and keeps the pot down where as a lead/get raised keeps him guessing and makes this pot juicy. The key is to keep him a bit confused but keep getting money into the pot, via a mix of betting and checking and doing the chicken dance. If he airballed and he folds, who cares.

And ignore the hearts. Please. If I never saw someone mention betting out (or pricing in) a flush draw on a two suited board HU in a raised pot again I'd be very happy.

Everett
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Old 11-09-2005, 03:17 PM
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Default Re: flopped a boat.. now what?

It would depend on my table image.

If I had been playing laggish then I would bet out 300 and hope one of them has something they are willing to play for. I think you get the most action that way as you can build a pot and either milk a 2nd best hand for alot of chips or induce a big bluff on later streets.

Then again if you have been playing very tight then there is a big chance they will fold to any opening bet from the small blind with that board. In that case I would check/call and see how they react hoping to pop them on the turn or river.
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Old 11-09-2005, 03:58 PM
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Default Re: flopped a boat.. now what?

it's 3-way, not HU.
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