Very tough set decision

PokerBob · #1 03-21-2005, 12:59 AM

Have only 5 hands on each villain, so I have no read. What do you do with this turn?

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $3.
Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, 3 folds, CO (poster) checks, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: (4.33 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, BB calls.

Turn: (3.66 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, BB 3-bets, Hero ????????

crunchy1 · #2 03-21-2005, 01:04 AM

Cap. Every Time!!

Harv72b · #3 03-21-2005, 01:07 AM

This is tough.

Unknowns, so I typically assume a decent but not great player at 3/6. UTG+1 would likely have raised TT preflop, so you're really only worried about 55 catching his set on the turn here. BB might have check/called with a gutshot or OESD, but to check a double 2-suited, T-high board if he hit his straight on the turn? Seems pretty odd to me.

You definitely can't fold, and I'm not convinced either one of them has a better hand. Maybe it's chip-spewing, but I'd cap it.

mtdoak · #4 03-21-2005, 01:31 AM

Call and pray for the board to pair....but even if it does, don't go too nuts.

GrekeHaus · #5 03-21-2005, 03:18 AM

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Call and pray for the board to pair....but even if it does, don't go too nuts.

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This seems like weak-tight advice. What hands are you worried about here? There isn't much that beats you. BB may very well have hit a set of 5s here, or he might just have two pair. I'd go ahead and cap for value and probably bet/raise the river.

PokerBob · #6 03-21-2005, 07:53 AM

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Have only 5 hands on each villain, so I have no read. What do you do with this turn?

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $3.
Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, 3 folds, CO (poster) checks, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: (4.33 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, BB calls.

Turn: (3.66 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, BB 3-bets, Hero ????????

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I capped. Both called.

River: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

BB bet. I called. UTG+1 calls.

BB shows A2o, UTG+1 shows 33 and MHING.

philnewall · #7 03-21-2005, 08:13 AM

It's an easy cap, even if your worried your behind, because a cap closes the turn action, so there's no risk of another raise.

ErrantNight · #8 03-21-2005, 09:24 AM

bus' a cap on those mofos.

djoyce003 · #9 03-21-2005, 11:05 AM

Not tough at all, cap it. You are either still way ahead, or are drawing at a decent number of outs to fill up. I think if you capped every street possible with a set in every hand you ever play from now on, regardless of action, it would be +ev.

chief444 · #10 03-21-2005, 11:20 AM

I like a cap mainly because the 3-bet came from BB with no raise preflop. So two pair is probably more likely than it would be for UTG+1.