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11-17-2005, 04:38 PM
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do they ever lay down a better hand?
I've read it on here many times, and had it recently reiterated by a strong player, that betting 4-flush boards is nearly always correct. Theoretically this makes some sense, but I see people calling all the time with all kinds of trash. I suspect it may be too well known at this point to be effective in these online games. Anyone have a contrary opinion?
SB is a maniac and I expect him to raise any two preflop. Party Poker 10.00/20.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(6 handed)</font> link Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls. Flop: (4.00 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls. Turn: (3.00 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls. Planning to check behind unless 7 or 9 hits. River: (7.00 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls. Final Pot: 9.00 BB. 
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#3
11-17-2005, 04:54 PM
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Re: do they ever lay down a better hand?
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I've read it on here many times, and had it recently reiterated by a strong player, that betting 4-flush boards is nearly always correct. [/ QUOTE ] Even in position? this definitely doesn't seem right
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#4
11-17-2005, 05:01 PM
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Re: do they ever lay down a better hand?
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your plan was to check behind- why didn't you? maniacs aren't known for good folds. they are, however, known for crazy river c/r on 4 flushes.... [/ QUOTE ] I'm guessing he wants a baby heart to fold...but still. I don't think it would unless he has a high FTRB %.
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#5
11-17-2005, 05:14 PM
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Re: do they ever lay down a better hand?
Obviously I didn't bet for value here, I was hoping to fold a better hand.
I tried to check behind in a similar situation during a sweat session. Coach suggested I bet. I've since been trying to bet these boards in and out of position. I don't like the results at all so far. Perhaps I took his advice too generally.
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#6
11-17-2005, 06:00 PM
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Re: do they ever lay down a better hand?
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I've read it on here many times that betting 4-flush boards is nearly always correct. [/ QUOTE ] I think that's when your OOP. I would take the free showdown here.
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#7
11-17-2005, 06:05 PM
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Re: do they ever lay down a better hand?
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[ QUOTE ] I've read it on here many times that betting 4-flush boards is nearly always correct. [/ QUOTE ] I think that's when your OOP. I would take the free showdown here. [/ QUOTE ] Also, it's as a value bet not a bluff.
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#8
11-17-2005, 06:40 PM
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Re: do they ever lay down a better hand?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I've read it on here many times that betting 4-flush boards is nearly always correct. [/ QUOTE ] I think that's when your OOP. I would take the free showdown here. [/ QUOTE ] Also, it's as a value bet not a bluff. [/ QUOTE ] I dunno, the value seems very thin IMO. what hands is he calling with enough there to make it worth the bet. Is he really calling with A or K high that has no [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in the hand for this to work, a lower pair on the board, a lower PP? I really dunno, this seems more like a semi-bluff then a value bet here
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