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Old 12-20-2005, 09:51 PM
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I can't believe so much sympathy is given to a group of rebels that chose to wage war on our country. Disgusting.
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Old 12-20-2005, 10:51 PM
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I can't believe so much sympathy is given to a group of rebels that chose to wage war on our country. Disgusting.

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Uh, the north waged war against the south.
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Old 12-21-2005, 04:36 AM
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I can't believe so much sympathy is given to a group of rebels that chose to wage war on our country. Disgusting.

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Uh, the north waged war against the south.

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Technically yes, but that doesn't dissuade me from my point. Not to mention that the South drew first blood.
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Old 12-21-2005, 09:30 AM
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Technically yes, but that doesn't dissuade me from my point. Not to mention that the South drew first blood.

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The north *invaded* the south. Fort Sumter is in *south carolina*.
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Old 12-21-2005, 09:37 AM
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Technically yes, but that doesn't dissuade me from my point. Not to mention that the South drew first blood.

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The north *invaded* the south. Fort Sumter is in *south carolina*.

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Federal troops were already garrisoned in the harbor area when South Carolina seceded. But it is true that the federal commander of another installation then moved his unit to Fort Sumter which killed negotions in progress with Washington and precipiated the southern attack.
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Old 12-21-2005, 10:39 AM
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Technically yes, but that doesn't dissuade me from my point. Not to mention that the South drew first blood.

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The north *invaded* the south. Fort Sumter is in *south carolina*.

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I don't buy this trespassing argument regarding Fort Sumter. Like I said in the other thread, it's like declaring some spot you don't own yours and then calling the people who were on that spot trespassers.
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Old 12-21-2005, 10:47 AM
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I don't buy this trespassing argument regarding Fort Sumter. Like I said in the other thread, it's like declaring some spot you don't own yours and then calling the people who were on that spot trespassers.

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If the south had the right to leave the union, the Union forces clearly should have evacuated the fort, and their refusal was an act of aggression.

If the south didn't have the right to leave the union, it doesn't really matter, does it? BTW, if this were the case, why would Lincoln wait for shots to be fired before acting?
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Old 12-21-2005, 01:23 PM
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If the south had the right to leave the union, the Union forces clearly should have evacuated the fort, and their refusal was an act of aggression.

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Why? The forts were federal property. The South said "Get out, that property's ours now". The North said "Like hell it is." The South then opened fire on it. How did federal property magically turn into state property simply because the South seceeded? Seems to me the South initiated the aggression and escalated it by attacking the fort.
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Old 12-22-2005, 02:59 PM
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I can't believe so much sympathy is given to a group of rebels that chose to wage war on our country. Disgusting.

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This is just laughable. Wage war? The South was attacked. Even after they were attacked, the South fought an almost entirely defensive war.
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