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#31
10-21-2005, 01:25 PM
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Some observations
The games are certainly different. Changing markets = changing results.
My reasons for these changes, mostly obvious. Please forgive me if this has already been discussed. 1. Turnover of player names : Multi-table skin sharks coming back to Party with different screen names. Making data less reliable, decisions tougher. The flip side to this is the player who recently changed names, It would seem that their data dependent opponents will be playing against them in a different manner using less informaion, making decisions not necessarily harder, but different. 2. Lack of recreational players from the skins, It would seem that the players that find the way back to Party are exactly the same players you would least prefer to play against. There are certainly recreational players, casino and sportbook customers from Eurobet, and other desirable opponents who are much less likely to open Party accounts. This translates into a kind of sifting of the winners back to Party and leaving the biggest losers on the skins, or elsewhere. Not completely of course. 3. Bankroll/ money shift. I would guess that many players winners and losers alike upon cashing out of skins and into Party are taking some of that money off the table. This could result in some tightening of the games as winning players come back to Party without some of their bankroll, thus playing in a tighter lesser variance style. Losers may take the change as an opportunity to take stock of the losses and play a better game of poker, kind of a new years resolution effect. 4. New players multi tabling at Party. It would seem that with the opening of 10 table play at Party there would be some players that are just starting to play more than 4 tables. It would seem to follow that these 8 table virgins would be adjusting their play to the tight side while getting accustomed to the extra tables. Add to this the sharks that are going from 8 to 10 tables, increasing the TAG multi tabler effect. anyway, something to think about. would like to hear any comments 
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#32
10-21-2005, 01:40 PM
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Re: Post-Skins Party 30-60
The games are fine. Any time there is any change in the games, people always say "the games are so hard now!" Then after a few months, something else changes and somebody new(you, in this case) comes forward and says "the games were soooo easy, now they are TOUGH!" The message is: don't worry about it. You'll adjust and adapt and if you were a winning player before you'll be a winning player now.
-James
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#37
10-21-2005, 04:06 PM
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Re: Post-Skins Party 30-60
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please respond with any of your obsevations [/ QUOTE ] 1) You've played like 8k hands this month 2) You've started playing more than 4 tables 3) You were running hot and now you're running bad 4) 1-3 Should be so obvious I don't even know why you posted this.
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#38
10-21-2005, 05:02 PM
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Re: Post-Skins Party 30-60
I have not noticed the games being more difficult. This could easily be a factor of several things:
1.) They are harder but i havent played enough 2.) Klepton is running bad or has been at unusually bad tables 3.) The 30 games seem easier as a result of me playing in some tough game Overall i think the games could be a bit harder, but they are certainly not much so. Its more likely that you are having your once or twice a year REALLY bad run of cards and are making the inference its because of the games when it's just really variance.
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#39
10-21-2005, 05:34 PM
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Re: Post-Skins Party 30-60
I'll add #5
5) Rakeback Players who chase bonuses and rakebacks 'could' be poorer players. And now that the skins are gone they have: (a) Stayed there without the party interface (b) Gone to new sites that offer rakeback (c) Are chasing bonuses I always found Stars to be MUCH harder games and assumed this was a big reason for that. Also assume a 'fish' sits down with $2,000 and is going to lose it all. Just a matter of time. If $150 of the $2,000 was going to rake and now $200 is that leaves that much less for the other players. Comments? FYI - Someone mentioned the 26% VPIP in an earlier post. Anecdontal evidence but I had a hard time today finding a game with over 22%. And found the games to be breaking much quicker than normal for a Friday afternoon (Which generally used to be one of the optimum times to play). Wonder if this will hurt Party as more players go to other sites to 'chase fish' or if we are just in a temporary state, and eventually the fish will come to Party. Or possibly the games really are not harder.
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#40
10-21-2005, 07:25 PM
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Re: Post-Skins Party 30-60
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I know. Tell that to Phil Ivey or TJ when they play craps. [/ QUOTE ] Perhaps your superior understanding of game conditions and statistics will some day lead you to be as wealthy as TJ himself!
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