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Old 12-27-2005, 10:44 PM
Dr_Jeckyl_00 Dr_Jeckyl_00 is offline
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Default $33: 4 hands from yesterday\'s losing session

So I played 13 games yesterday (a lot for me since I play one at a time). I was down for the day, but after reviewing HH's I did not make as many mistakes as I thought, but here are a few that were probably wrong...

He is in the same shape as me and can't wait too long for a hand...

Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: river5card ( $1000 )
Seat 8: edgebull ( $2540 )
Seat 3: Dr_Jeckyl_00 ( $990 )
Seat 2: svarta ( $2140 )
Seat 9: jimhoff611 ( $1330 )
Trny:18634148 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Dr_Jeckyl_00 [ 9c 9d ]
river5card is all-In [1000]
svarta folds.
HERO?
Results in White <font color="white">
Dr_Jeckyl_00 is all-In [990]
edgebull folds.
jimhoff611 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qs, Kd, 3c ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4s ]
** Dealing River ** [ As ]
river5card shows [ Ah, 6h ] a pair of aces.
Dr_Jeckyl_00 shows [ 9c, 9d ] a pair of nines.
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This hand really embarrassed me b/c there was another 2+2er at my table... but wtf could villain CR all-in with? He limped pf, checked flop... I thought he thought I was bluffing...

Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 3: Dr_Jeckyl_00 ( $905 )
Seat 8: fernando66 ( $765 )
Seat 9: dkpat ( $1695 )
Seat 6: epzw01 ( $1340 )
Seat 1: Scuba_Chuck ( $665 )
Seat 4: perezj234 ( $990 )
Seat 7: booyakasha60 ( $380 )
Seat 2: KPOTKPOT ( $1260 )
Trny:18633490 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Dr_Jeckyl_00 [ 4s Qd ]
perezj234 folds.
epzw01 calls [50].
booyakasha60 folds.
fernando66 folds.
dkpat folds.
Scuba_Chuck folds.
KPOTKPOT folds.
Dr_Jeckyl_00 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2c, 2d, Td ]
Dr_Jeckyl_00 checks.
epzw01 checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qh ]
HERO?
Results in White <font color="white">
Dr_Jeckyl_00 bets [100].
epzw01 is all-In [1290]
Your time bank will be activated in 5 secs. If you do not want it to be used, please act now.
Dr_Jeckyl_00 will be using his time bank for this hand.
Dr_Jeckyl_00 is all-In [755]
** Dealing River ** [ 6s ]
Dr_Jeckyl_00 shows [ 4s, Qd ] two pairs, queens and twos.
epzw01 shows [ Ad, Ah ] two pairs, aces and twos.
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This hand seems fine to me...

Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 6: Wolf_0969 ( $730 )
Seat 3: Dr_Jeckyl_00 ( $675 )
Seat 1: wsopwinr2010 ( $685 )
Seat 7: Stupid_Call ( $770 )
Seat 9: Treecephus ( $710 )
Seat 8: sry4urluck ( $1640 )
Seat 2: luckylouie69 ( $1130 )
Seat 10: DjAdi ( $695 )
Seat 4: rickyjayhawk ( $965 )
Trny:18631054 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Dr_Jeckyl_00 [ Th Td ]
Stupid_Call folds.
sry4urluck folds.
Treecephus folds.
DjAdi folds.
wsopwinr2010 folds.
luckylouie69 folds.
HERO?
Results in White <font color="white">
Dr_Jeckyl_00 is all-In [675]
rickyjayhawk is all-In [940]
Wolf_0969 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3d, 2d, 5h ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ah ]
** Dealing River ** [ Qs ]
rickyjayhawk shows [ As, Qd ] two pairs, aces and queens.
Dr_Jeckyl_00 shows [ Th, Td ] a pair of tens.
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Good place to make a stand or wait for a better spot?

Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: cby_player ( $2130 )
Seat 5: Sclops ( $2360 )
Seat 4: Dr_Jeckyl_00 ( $525 )
Seat 9: Prace ( $1435 )
Seat 1: swanyea ( $1550 )
Trny:18632405 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Dr_Jeckyl_00 [ 8s 9s ]
swanyea calls [200].
cby_player folds.
HERO?
Results in White <font color="white">
Dr_Jeckyl_00 is all-In [525]
Sclops folds.
Prace folds.
swanyea calls [325].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ks, Th, Qh ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Js ]
** Dealing River ** [ Qd ]
swanyea shows [ 3d, Ad ] a straight, ten to ace.
Dr_Jeckyl_00 shows [ 8s, 9s ] a straight, nine to king.
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Old 12-27-2005, 11:27 PM
UMTerp UMTerp is offline
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Default Re: $33: 4 hands from yesterday\'s losing session

1. Fine.

2. I'd have made a pot-sized bet on the turn. Then when he check-raises you all-in, you might not have that same read (that he thought you were bluffing). As is, it's read dependent. You're either way ahead, or he has you crushed (or I guess you could be drawing very live to a split pot). You made the wrong read. Not the end of the world.

3. I'd have made a raise to 175ish, though a push is certainly within reason, especially if you think you might get calls from raggedy aces. As it turned out, it didn't matter - you guys were getting in preflop regardless, and you lost the flip. Meh.

4. I'd fold this and try to open-push anything given the opportunity. You know you're getting a caller in this case. If you were fairly certain the blinds wouldn't come along, though I don't see how you could be, I don't have as big a problem with the push. I'm always a little wary of open-limpers to begin with too, but this one turned out to be nothing to worry about.

I'd have played a few of these differently, but I don't think any are catastrophic leaks, with the possible exception of #2 - that one seemed a little reckless.
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Old 12-27-2005, 11:50 PM
The Yugoslavian The Yugoslavian is offline
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Default Re: $33: 4 hands from yesterday\'s losing session

1. Fine

2. I think you can make a heftier bet on the turn.....but meh, I actually bet smallish myself plenty and unless this guy seems like one to have gumption to just shove at the pot/board I'd fold. Most $33 and under players will have already shown you whether they will make this play with a hand behind Q4.

3. Pushing is fine.....raising is fine too....but you have to call an allin (however there is an argument u get a bit more EV due to seeing flops and getting worse hands to push on you....but I don't really agree).

Hell, you could possibly even limp - I used to do that here sometimes but I wouldn't anymore.

4. Fold.....I don't think you have enough FE here as you're behind all of his limping hands (maybe live but still behind). You have a couple more hands to just open raise allin and actually will have more FE at that point vs. ppl who aren't sure whether they like their hand vs. one who you already know is willing to take a flop with it.

Yugoslav
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Old 12-28-2005, 03:22 AM
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Default Re: $33: 4 hands from yesterday\'s losing session

I think 99 here is a judgement call, but I'd definitely lean to a call. Giving him an 'average' range (44+, A7s+, A9o+, KJs+), this call is -EV. If he's "loose" (22+, A2s+, A3o+, KTs+, KJo+, QJs+), it is +EV. But even with the average range, it is *barely* -EV, and he actually pushed A6s, which isn't in 'average', so you're probably right to call, even if it's very borderline. If you've seen him raise 3xBB with this stack size vis a vis the blinds, then I'd lean to folding.

2. I think you played fine, except you should have folded. I'd have put him on A2 myself. I think that massive overbet often is done specifically to look like a bluff.

3. I'd have made it 150 here. I think against a push the only hands that call you are hands you are coinflipping or worse against and the blinds are not big enough to make pushing worth the times you bust out.

4. I wait. I think it's highly likely the limper comes along, and you're a dog to almost everything they'd limp. You're on the button, so you have a couple rounds to make a push where you have some real fold equity, and where you might actually be a favorite via Ax, Kx or a PP. If not, I think you can push any 2 UTG and have better +EV. It's not as thought the player is all-in, but if we treat it like calling an all-in, since you're pushing and villain has already called enough to probably be pot-committed, I calculated it as a villain push, and your call is substantially -EV even against a maniac range. (22+, a2+, k2+, q2s+, q6o+, j7s+, j9o+, t8s+, 98s+). If you think they're weak-tight and may actually fold it that may change it, but I think it's very unlikely.
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