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Old 11-04-2005, 12:38 AM
sternroolz sternroolz is offline
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Ok, in a lot of the So Cal games I play in, males of a certain ethnicity....and I am not saying which one since the PC police on this board like to scream racism the minute you mention any specific race or ethnic group.....like to peek at their cards when no one is looking and then proclaim that they are raising blind. Usually no one sees them look at their cards but me.

Now suppose a fish is calling down one of these guys. I know the guy only does this with a high pocket pair. Also suppose the "raising blind" guy has really pissed me off.

How wrong would it be for me to inform the fish on the flop that the guy actually had looked at his cards before raising?
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Old 11-04-2005, 12:51 AM
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Ok, in a lot of the So Cal games I play in, males of a certain ethnicity....and I am not saying which one since the PC police on this board like to scream racism the minute you mention any specific race or ethnic group.....like to peek at their cards when no one is looking and then proclaim that they are raising blind. Usually no one sees them look at their cards but me.

Now suppose a fish is calling down one of these guys. I know the guy only does this with a high pocket pair. Also suppose the "raising blind" guy has really pissed me off.

How wrong would it be for me to inform the fish on the flop that the guy actually had looked at his cards before raising?

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1. Why let the 'blind' raisers know that you're aware of this? Seems like valuable information to have, and to keep secret.

2. Exactly why was it important to mention that they were of a certain race? Why not just say you know certain players who lie about raising blind? I think being PC has gone over the line too, but unnecessarily phrasing your story that way kinda opens it up..
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Old 11-04-2005, 12:59 AM
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Its one player to a hand. If you are talking about telling players during the hand that is totally unacceptable.

If you want to tell players that he does this in between hands I don't think its a rules violation or unethical, but I don't what you think you have to gain by doing this.
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Old 11-04-2005, 12:11 PM
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You shouldn't let these [censored] angle shooters mess up the game. What happens when the angle shooter turns over a big hand and emabarrasses the other player? Does the other player go play somewhere else or does he get pissed off and begins to play better?

You go from having a fun loose (easy) game to a bunch of tight ass rocks and angle shooters and the only one than wins is the rake.
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Old 11-04-2005, 12:15 PM
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This is not an angle. This is the equivalent of an experienced player sitting down and saying that he never played before.

And I don't think this kind of play tightens the game, in fact i think it loosens up the play. If players think he isgiving action they tend to give action as well. He tells them he is playing blind and then turns over a big hand so they decide to try it since it works for him.
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Old 11-04-2005, 12:41 PM
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This is not an angle. This is the equivalent of an experienced player sitting down and saying that he never played before.

And I don't think this kind of play tightens the game, in fact i think it loosens up the play. If players think he isgiving action they tend to give action as well. He tells them he is playing blind and then turns over a big hand so they decide to try it since it works for him.

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Your post should have just been, I am Clueless.
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Old 11-04-2005, 01:45 AM
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2. Exactly why was it important to mention that they were of a certain race? Why not just say you know certain players who lie about raising blind?

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this is exactly the type of pc bullsh1t he was talking.
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Old 11-04-2005, 11:50 AM
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2. Exactly why was it important to mention that they were of a certain race? Why not just say you know certain players who lie about raising blind?

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this is exactly the type of pc bullsh1t he was talking.

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Adding the information that people are of a certain race is stereotyping since it is pointless to the thread. I'll be on the lookout for these people in the future.
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Old 11-04-2005, 01:17 AM
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Default Re: Odd dillema

completely unethical, but it's still +ev and it's unlikely to get you tossed. take your pick
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Old 11-04-2005, 01:46 AM
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Ok, in a lot of the So Cal games I play in, males of a certain ethnicity....and I am not saying which one since the PC police on this board like to scream racism the minute you mention any specific race or ethnic group.....like to peek at their cards when no one is looking and then proclaim that they are raising blind. Usually no one sees them look at their cards but me.



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im just gonna take a shot in the dark, do these guys happen to be blacks?
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