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#1
07-06-2005, 10:40 AM
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You raise for the first time in an hour? I cold call!
Loose, weak 2-4 table at Party. There are two other reasonably solid types, one to my immediate right.
In this hand, I'm the button, three players limp, tight player raises in the cut off and I have A9s. Call, fold or three-bet? 
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#3
07-06-2005, 10:44 AM
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Re: You raise for the first time in an hour? I cold call!
Easy Fold. Three betting may isolate the TAG / Rock which could easily have you dominated.
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#4
07-06-2005, 10:46 AM
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Re: You raise for the first time in an hour? I cold call!
If the BB calls the raise, which is likely in this game, and the limpers all call -- a virtual certainty -- I'll be getting 5-1 on my suited ace. And there WILL be callers if I flop good. Still a fold?
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#5
07-06-2005, 10:53 AM
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Re: You raise for the first time in an hour? I cold call!
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If the BB calls the raise, which is likely in this game, and the limpers all call -- a virtual certainty -- I'll be getting 5-1 on my suited ace. And there WILL be callers if I flop good. Still a fold? [/ QUOTE ] I'd still fold A9s here. ~
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#6
07-06-2005, 10:58 AM
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Re: You raise for the first time in an hour? I cold call!
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If the BB calls the raise, which is likely in this game, and the limpers all call -- a virtual certainty -- I'll be getting 5-1 on my suited ace. And there WILL be callers if I flop good. Still a fold? [/ QUOTE ] I don't think it's as easy a fold as the others are saying. The tight player who raised, is he a rock? Or is he position aware and possibly raising with a wide range of hands? I don't know that calling or folding are particularly correct, it sounds like a pretty break-even situation to me.
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#7
07-06-2005, 11:09 AM
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Re: You raise for the first time in an hour? I cold call!
IMHO the key to this is the limpers. I think this is a marginal hand, but one where being an experienced reasonably solid player may have value -- but I'm truly not sure, hence the post.
The cutoff is not raising a marginal hand with three limpers. If he had something like a small pocket pair or JTs, he'd just limp along. He was not a particularly imaginative player, I didn't think. Bob is obviously right, three betting is awful -- the last thing I want is to isolate since there's a good chance I have a dominated ace and almost no chance my nine beats any pocket pair he could have. No, I want to hit my flush or a lucky flop like 99x or A9x. But getting either 4-1 or 5-1, on the button, knowing I can get away from many of my dominated hands, and knowing I can win 4 or 5 more BB if I hit, I don't think this is an obvious fold.
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#10
07-06-2005, 01:20 PM
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Re: You raise for the first time in an hour? I cold call!
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Call or fold. IMO 3-betting sucks. [/ QUOTE ] Agree. I definitely don't think this is the easiest fold ever. Hero is getting around 5:1 on the cold call, considering the blinds. On the button, that's pretty good odds. With every opponent that enters the pot ahead of Hero, the top-pair strentgh of Hero's hand decreases, but the value of the nut flush increases. 3-betting would be a disaster here, becasue we want a multiway pot, not a short pot. Given all this, I think the decision is between call and fold, and the decision is close. I'd probably fold 3 times for ever time I call in this situation. If there were 4 limpers and then a raise, I'd call very often.
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