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Old 05-20-2005, 05:38 PM
Daliman Daliman is offline
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Depending on the rake policy it can be awfully stupid not to chop.

How does not chopping improve heads up play? There is a regular player at Canterbury who told me that. I don't know if playing headsup in the blinds really makes much of a difference if the person you are up against is a terrible headsup player. How much are you going to learn?

People who won't chop with me are going to be playing for a raise on every street almost all the time. They usually change their minds about not chopping.

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This is exactly WHY they shouldn't chop with you.
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Old 05-20-2005, 06:57 PM
Mikey Mikey is offline
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if I find myself chopping often in a full handed game, I think its time to stand up and find a different seat.
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Old 05-20-2005, 08:01 PM
BigBaitsim (milo) BigBaitsim (milo) is offline
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I don't chop SH, but generally do at a full table.

More importantly, I have a two-chop rule. Two chops within the same down and I ask for a table change. At the first chop, I start thinking about how the game has been of late, and watch more intently for signs it is time to go.

Of course, I play at Canterbury, and every limit shy of 15/30 (which is usually a main and a must-move) has at least three tables, so there's always at least one good table.
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Old 05-21-2005, 02:46 PM
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Your assuming they are good players - bad assumption at Canterbury
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Old 05-21-2005, 03:41 PM
Barry Barry is offline
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Just say you never chop.

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There's even a better way to say it that takes the negative out of it.

Just say "I prefer to play."

I had decided to take that approach sometime back and the 1st opportunity comes around and the guy next to me is wearing a cannula and sucking on an oxygen bottle. Not chopping then would have made me feel like a real jerk. So I still chop live unless we get shorthanded.
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Old 05-23-2005, 02:06 PM
Tyler Durden Tyler Durden is offline
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No offense Barron but you're likely an outcast anyway, no matter where you play [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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Old 05-23-2005, 03:33 PM
Rick Nebiolo Rick Nebiolo is offline
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I want to work on live shorthanded more.

enough i will pay rake to do it.

so from now on, i plan on not chopping live at all.

is it worth it in terms of the table image of the rest of the table hating me for slowing down the game? being a likely outcast not chopper? etc.?

-Barron

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Now that most games have gone to drop (instead of time) there is justifiably more pressure to chop head up in the blinds (to avoid the full drop which is triggered by a flop in LA). That said, most rooms (even in LA) reduce the drop short handed. Many players in my mid-limit games will indicate they always chop six-handed or more and always play five-handed or less. I'd try this middle ground approach first.

~ Rick
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Old 05-23-2005, 07:27 PM
DcifrThs DcifrThs is offline
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No offense Barron but you're likely an outcast anyway, no matter where you play [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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note to tylerdurden: i hate you... [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

oh yeah...tell me the story about me picking you off before your WSP win....its right aboutmy bedtime...

-Barron
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