Another SB/BB battle - play for it all? - $200 NL

yes, but this is in best the best case i can see. How much better does it get if you remove unpaired hands?

Look, this is a waste of time, you obv think you made the right play and you have to think you have him beat/have odds to draw enough of the time. Quite a few people have chimed in to say they disagree with you, I've given you the best case you can hope for(which you should call) but there are many cases where you should fold. I think this is a call given your range (stated before) but i think you are way to loose.

[poincaraux]

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Just to add i very much doubt someone is c/r allin with KQs or AQs+, i've just added them to add some sort of bluffing balance.

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For those of you playing along at home, some interesting ranges are:

vs. AA-JJ,99,77,66,K9s,A9s,AKs,AQs,KQs where the suited hands match one of the board cards: behind 38:62.

take out AKs,AQs,KQs: behind 29:71
take out K9s: behind 27:73
take out everything but sets and overpairs: behind 23:77

Lesson 3) villain should play looser against have_it_all.

Thanks to both of you. I'm learning more about how to put villain on a range here, and it's interesting to see different opinions.

[scdavis0]

I have no idea how you gave me the best case scenario. You put him on squarely a set, an overpair, with a small possibility of a bluff. This seems closer to the typical or maybe even worst case scenario.

[scdavis0]

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take out everything but sets and overpairs: behind 23:77

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and if you give him as little extra as an 88 or a 9-8 suited to this range the numbers swing dramatically

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Lesson 3) villain should play looser against have_it_all.



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your missing the point. most 1/2 players don't play how i would nor how OP does. They have you beat here more than you can say. My range is (IMO) far to wide, but i feel the nned to add hands, just for the sake of it.

just to add, do you still agree with this range

66+, JTs, T7s+, 96s+, 86s+, 76s, JTo, T8o+, 97o+, 87o?

One last try, do you think this range is good, AA-JJ,99,77,66,K9s,A9s,AKs,AQs,KQs?

How about this, AA-JJ,99,77,66,K9s,A9s?

Or this, AA-JJ,99,77,66,A9s?

What about AA-JJ,99,77,66?

[scdavis0]

I can't fathom that you have no concept of your opponents playing connected cards. In your mind they either have TPTK, a set, or an overpair.

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I can't fathom that you have no concept of your opponents playing connected cards.

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i can't fathom that you have no concept that most 1/2 won't c/r allin with a suited connector!

Can someone else chime in and back up either my arguement or his.