Aggressive vs Passive options (3 hands)

toby · #1 03-22-2005, 09:31 PM

Hand 1) Passive

Villain (SB) is LA-P after 65 hands. Nothing particularly notable has happened with him that I can recall.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP2 calls, CO calls, Hero calls, SB raises, 1 fold, MP2 calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (9 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, MP2 checks, CO bets, Hero calls, SB calls, MP2 calls.
Flush draw fairly easy call. Argument against raising for a free card - a Queen with 3-bet it, charging me the most money to draw.
Turn: (6.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, Hero bets, SB calls, MP2 calls, CO folds.
Straightforward
River: (9.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, MP2 calls, Hero calls.
This betting pattern screams AQ to me, especially given SB's generally passive postflop play. Raising my flush, which I would do normally, gaurantees being 3-bet if he does have AQ, or AA.
Final Pot: 12.50 BB

Hand 2: Aggressive

MP1 is TA-N after 116 hands. MP2 is new to the table.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 3 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.
standard, I think
Turn: (4 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, MP1 calls, MP2 raises, Hero 3-bets, MP1 calls, MP2 caps, Hero calls, MP1 calls.
After the cap, I get worried that I'm behind. However, I felt fine about 3-betting and like that MP1 is along for the ride.
River: (16 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP1 folds, MP2 calls.
standard
Final Pot: 18 BB

My question on this hand is 3-betting the flush draw on the turn. (After the cap, I think I can safely discount the value of my top pair) With only 2 other players 3-betting is probably not for value. Is this play okay, or a long-term leak?

Last Hand
Aggressive

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.5.
UTG calls, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, CO (poster) checks, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (7 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 bets, Hero raises, CO folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls.
first thought is to raise and clear the field. However, there are only two worse aces than mine, and a better one is not folding. the only draws i would push out are a 79s OESD or something like that. Since there are no overcards to my ace, would it be better to just call this one down?
Turn: (5.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls.
one player, checking to me, i think there is no way a don't bet here
River: (7.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks.
however, I check behind here because I would figure him to have something like A5, which beats me. He wont fold a better hand.
Final Pot: 7.50 BB