BB defense...this is ugly

#1 08-26-2005, 12:54 AM

Villian stats were 13.5/7/3.3 and WtSD of 50% in 40ish hands

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
5 folds, CO raises, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, CO calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

River: (7.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

Final Pot: 9.25 BB

I don't like how I played this. Anyone have a good line here?

pokerjunky · #2 08-26-2005, 01:00 AM

I probably would have check raised the flop, bet the turn, and check folded the river.

bobhalford · #3 08-26-2005, 01:10 AM

I probably would have played it the same, and then check-folded the river. You aren't folding any hands that beat you, and most likely he is on the same draw as you and has an A or the Q of hearts. He won't fold these hands because he thinks you are on a flush draw a lot of the time and missed, like you did.

Harv72b · #4 08-26-2005, 03:16 AM

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I probably would have check raised the flop, bet the turn, and check folded the river.

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And if he 3-bets my flop c/r, I check/call the turn & check/fold the river UI.

#5 08-26-2005, 10:40 AM

KJo is not a very good starting hand. I'd just fold it against a raise.

JinX11 · #6 08-26-2005, 10:44 AM

Not against a TAG open-raise from CO, whose open-raising requirements are going to be much less than optimum.

#7 08-26-2005, 10:45 AM

3 bet preflop. this is a must. unless you know this player will only raise with premium hands. once you 3 bet preflop you will gain so much more information. if he has the ace, he will raise the flop and you can play youu draw accordingly.
but speaking long term you will win so so many more of these hands by 3 betting preflop. your opponent will miss his flop 2/3 of the time. i 3 bet any 2 suited face cards, ATo, KJo, and against looser raisers KTo QJo A9o

sean c · #8 08-26-2005, 10:46 AM

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KJo is not a very good starting hand. I'd just fold it against a raise.

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Villian open/raised from the CO I would call this all day long.

JinX11 · #9 08-26-2005, 10:50 AM

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3 bet preflop. this is a must. unless you know this player will only raise with premium hands. once you 3 bet preflop you will gain so much more information. if he has the ace, he will raise the flop and you can play youu draw accordingly.
but speaking long term you will win so so many more of these hands by 3 betting preflop. your opponent will miss his flop 2/3 of the time. i 3 bet any 2 suited face cards, ATo, KJo, and against looser raisers KTo QJo A9o

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This seems overboard. Given the CO's TAG stats, you *are* likely behind, but not so much that you should fold. Nothing indicates he is a loose raiser, so raising when you are likely behind just loses you more money.

brazilio · #10 08-26-2005, 10:53 AM

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KJo is not a very good starting hand. I'd just fold it against a raise.

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Villian open/raised from the CO I would 3-bet this all day long.

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