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Old 10-27-2005, 04:35 PM
Scotch78 Scotch78 is offline
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Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666"> 1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (11 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>

Scott
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Old 10-27-2005, 04:42 PM
Borodog Borodog is offline
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Default Re: Turn Action

I like it if UTG+1 doesn't 3-bet you. If he doesn't and you don't improve on the river, what's you're plan? What's you plan if you make Jacks &amp; 7s?
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Old 10-27-2005, 04:45 PM
MrEngenic MrEngenic is offline
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Default Re: Turn Action

I don't like the turn action. You don't have the best hand and you don't have enough equity to raise with just one card to come. Call and save your checkraise the river if you hit your flush. Donk trips or two pair on the river.
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Old 10-27-2005, 04:53 PM
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What's the point of the turn raise? The flop raise looks like a freecard play attempt. Perhaps UTG+1 thinks you're trying this by playing a little stop and go?

I'd just call the turn and get more bets in on the river.

You're probably behind here on the turn as it is, why spew more chips than necessary?
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Old 10-27-2005, 05:29 PM
Chris Daddy Cool Chris Daddy Cool is offline
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Default Re: Turn Action

spewing.
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Old 10-27-2005, 07:32 PM
Scotch78 Scotch78 is offline
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Default Re: Turn Action

If all three players call, I only need 11.5 outs to break even; I potentially have 14. I can understand not liking the play, but I fail to see how it is obvious spewery. I am not in good position to extract two bets on the river, so I don't think I'm giving up much river equity by raising now. Also, this hand should stick out in the other players' minds and work to my advantage later on.

Scott

edit: Does this play become automatic if there are three trapped callers on the turn?
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Old 10-27-2005, 07:53 PM
Nutz&Boltz Nutz&Boltz is offline
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I wouldn't count it as 14 outs. I don't see any clean outs.
As for advertising, who needs to at 2-4. Spewing
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