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Old 09-09-2005, 05:12 PM
lemonPeel lemonPeel is offline
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Default Party 100 ten handed Analysis

Hero is BB with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], UTG+1 is a solid player who rarely raises preflop

Action

Utg+1 raises to 4, folded around to Hero who calls.

Pot size = $8

Flop

Ten [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Hero checks, UTG+1 bets 9, Hero Calls

Pot Size = $26

Turn Card

K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Hero checks, UTG+1 bets 20, Hero Calls

Pot Size = $66

River A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Hero ?
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Old 09-09-2005, 05:31 PM
lemonPeel lemonPeel is offline
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Default Re: Party 100 ten handed Analysis

anyone?
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Old 09-09-2005, 06:00 PM
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Default Re: Party 100 ten handed Analysis

Trying to get all in on the flop is probably a good idea.
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Old 09-09-2005, 06:08 PM
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Default Re: Party 100 ten handed Analysis

He's not really giving you the odds to go for your flush draw and there's a good chance against a decent player that your overcards are no good. So the best we're hoping for here is the flush or the Queen. Your Queens may be dead, if he happens to have QQ.

I would check the river and call his bet, but I wouldn't be too happy about it. Expecting to lose to either QQ AA or KK.
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Old 09-09-2005, 06:25 PM
Bco1/75 Bco1/75 is offline
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Default Re: Party 100 ten handed Analysis

how deep was your stack, but it probally doesn't matter. I think at best you are going to chop the pot. Why do you think he bet the pot on the flop and turn then 1/3 the pot on the flop? Most likely QQ or AA.

Bco
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Old 09-09-2005, 09:49 PM
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Default Re: Party 100 ten handed Analysis

when he bet 20 on the turn, it tells me that he feared the k. he may have qq, and picked up middle pair with an open-ender. raise the turn.

good call on the flop for several reasons, including the knowledge youll gain from his firing the turn, if he does.
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Old 09-09-2005, 10:02 PM
xcrack999 xcrack999 is offline
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Default Re: Party 100 ten handed Analysis

You should go all-in on the flop. You're a favorite against QQ and KK and still have your fair share of equity against AA, TT, and JJ. Calling flop is bad. Calling turn is bad. I don't think calling a river bet is an option even though you have top two. There's almost no hands that he can have that you're beating. At best, you're splitting the pot.
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Old 09-09-2005, 10:03 PM
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Default Re: Party 100 ten handed Analysis

I'd probably bet the flop out around 2/3 the size of the pot or so. If raised, I'd certainly push.

Ryan
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Old 09-09-2005, 10:37 PM
amulet amulet is offline
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Default Re: reraise preflop.

heads up out of position i reraise to 10 or 12 preflop, i give him the chance with aa or kk or reraise and find out where i am inexpensively. if he smooth calls he may still have aa, but many opponents would reraise.
i then bet out that flop, online i probably bet the pot. on the river i most likely check and call if he makes a smallish bet. if he moves all in and we both have sizable stacks, it depends on my read. i could call or easily toss it, what can you beat that he moves all in with, not much. aa, kk, jj, qq, aq, tt, all beat you.

i believe those advocating all in preflop, are incorrect. if you play cash games enough you know better. in a tournament depending on how late it is, the size of the blinds, the stacks, all in with ak can often be correct.
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Old 09-09-2005, 10:49 PM
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Default Re: reraise preflop.

No one's advocating all-in preflop
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