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ALL1N · #1 03-07-2005, 11:32 PM

Just sat down.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls, Button calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, MP calls, Button calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP calls, Button folds.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, Hero calls.

River: (6.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB

TStoneMBD · #2 03-07-2005, 11:44 PM

ill what are you doing, bet the turn. hell checkraising sounds pretty good. check-call? wtf man.

Trix · #3 03-07-2005, 11:47 PM

Raise the river and fold if 3bet ?

I think he will have Ax pretty often, 6x or the flush somewhat often too. Sometimes some total crap he wont put more money in with unless he is curious.

BusterStacks · #4 03-07-2005, 11:53 PM

interesting... are you pretty confident in doing this?

imitation · #5 03-08-2005, 12:05 AM

Lead the turn, call down if raised. What are you putting him on to make this play, I guess it ~might~ make sense if he has a medium PP without a spade that you think he'll fold on the turn, but then I would be scared he will check through the river. I think you have to keep the initiative because most times PP will call you down on a board like this, checking you also risk giving a free card to some monkey with KQ with a spade.

Bleh I just noticed I refer to every villian in my posts always as male, totally aside but meh whatever.

stripsqueez · #6 03-08-2005, 12:23 AM

i had KK yesterday and 2 guys (or girls) who limped before the blinds called me all the way to the river with Ax no pair or other sensible draw - an ace rivered

these people must pay so i raise the turn

stripsqueez - chickenhawk

ALL1N · #7 03-08-2005, 01:03 AM

Not many seem to like the turn check.

May I ask what is gained from betting the turn before I elaborate on my line?

Clarkmeister · #8 03-08-2005, 01:44 AM

I don't think its that bad, but I'd have a real hard time not checkraising the river.

ALL1N · #9 03-08-2005, 06:23 PM

He showed Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and MHWG.

I seriously can't see the benefit in betting the turn on this hand. For any real hand MP can have (Ax, 6x, or flush), I think checking is superior since I save a bet against 6x or a flush, while missing no bets against Ax (2 bets T&R). He could also have a pocket pair, but this is unlikely for obvious reasons, and he may bet twice anyway.

Then if MP is bad enough to call the flop with crap, checking is a huge boon IMO (as shown by results).

Raising the river is perhaps something I missed. 6x probably wouldn't always 3-bet here, so it would be a pretty safe value raise. Calling a 3-bet would be a must, however, as this sort of tricky play often induces anger and aggression (a 3-bet bluff).

helpmeout · #10 03-08-2005, 06:30 PM

I use this play as well.

I'm calling this down regardless but I dont want to pay extra bets when I am beat.

A lot of players will bluff you on the turn when you check.