WSOP has become a joke.

rockythecat99 · #1 11-02-2005, 10:56 AM

After watching yesterdays episode and some of the smaller events won by fish, to me the wsop has become a joke. This is no longer a tournament about skill but about who can make the worst call and be the luckiest.

Some of calls they have been showing are right down sickening. The fact that these players have gone this far in a tournament just goes to show that it no longer is about skill its all about luck. Very depressing.

Toddy · #2 11-02-2005, 10:58 AM

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After watching yesterdays episode and some of the smaller events won by fish, to me the wsop has become a joke. This is no longer a tournament about skill but about who can make the worst call and be the luckiest.

Some of calls they have been showing are right down sickening. The fact that these players have gone this far in a tournament just goes to show that it no longer is about skill its all about luck. Very depressing.

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Espn loves to show alot of that, and don't show the skillful chip accumulating hands that took skill to win. I too am shocked at some of the play I have been watching. I feel like I should go there and take a shot.

swarm · #3 11-02-2005, 11:22 AM

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After watching yesterdays episode and some of the smaller events won by fish, to me the wsop has become a joke. This is no longer a tournament about skill but about who can make the worst call and be the luckiest.

Some of calls they have been showing are right down sickening. The fact that these players have gone this far in a tournament just goes to show that it no longer is about skill its all about luck. Very depressing.

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Espn loves to show alot of that, and don't show the skillful chip accumulating hands that took skill to win. I too am shocked at some of the play I have been watching. I feel like I should go there and take a shot.

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This is true, the reason for this is that most of the skillful play comes from the outer tables without the card readers. Not seeing the cards, a series of bets, and then a fold does not make great TV. In reality they have to make their footage from the featured table and showndown hands on the outertables. Most skilled plays never ever see a showdown.

#4 11-03-2005, 01:09 AM

I honestly wished tiffany would of called with KJs and won the hand with some kind of luckbox flush. Then I hope everybody adds this play to their arsenal. I wonder what Raymer was thinking after he got called by AJo. Anyways I hope everybody at that table got a good laugh when the show aired. Except for the guy who called the raise w/ A10 he is probably shaking his head saying "bad laydown you had KJs dumbazz". Peace.

#5 11-03-2005, 01:17 AM

I wish tiffany had called so she could have felt like a goddamn ass after saying how she knew he didnt have aces. Another very annoying thing was that fat white guy(bowler). He got lucky at least 10 times on the river, and he let everyone in the casino know it. After the guy called his all-in with A10 he started bitching.

#6 11-03-2005, 01:21 AM

yeah but just think about all the balls he can fondle with all that money.

TBone · #7 11-03-2005, 02:30 AM

Do you not think that perhaps she was saying that to try to get a reaction from him? She was looking at him as she said it. If he's got Aces or Kings, she's in big trouble and if she can somehow detect a tell by saying that...then she can know to lay it down?

I'm not trying to defend her because I think her play was pretty horrible at the TV table, but...

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#8 11-04-2005, 02:13 PM

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I wonder what Raymer was thinking after he got called by AJo.

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Poor Greg. He looked like someone just told him he had the 'big casino.' I have to think he had visions of this chick sucking out on him with her fishhooks . I can't imagine he would have thought this donkey would call with A-J but I'm sure after that hand he kept a good eye not to get too mixed up with her.

Zetack · #9 11-02-2005, 11:14 AM

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After watching yesterdays episode and some of the smaller events won by fish, to me the wsop has become a joke. This is no longer a tournament about skill but about who can make the worst call and be the luckiest.

Some of calls they have been showing are right down sickening. The fact that these players have gone this far in a tournament just goes to show that it no longer is about skill its all about luck. Very depressing.

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To even make this statement shows, I think, a very profound misunderstanding of the incredible effect of luck on short term results.

--Zetack

rockythecat99 · #10 11-02-2005, 11:25 AM

There is a difference with luck and calling a reraise with A10o. Or taking god knows how long to fold KJs for all your chips. Or in a smaller event that that asian guy won. To call off your stack with AJo.

Sure when you call with AK and the person has KK and you spike and Ace that is luck. But if you call with 64o and beat AA thats not only luck but unskillful play.