Two hands for your consumption -$25pl

[Zarathustra888]

I'm a novice at the pot limit game, and hence frequently find myself in situations without a clue. Here's two

hand 1:
Game #924312063: Texas Hold'em Pot Limit ($0.15/$0.25) - 2005/08/24 - 17:32:51 (ET)
Table "Fern" Seat 10 is the button.
Seat 1: Gary02052 ($44.10 in chips)
Seat 2: scooby do sits out
Seat 3: Withey ($27.55 in chips)
Seat 4: 91scully ($42 in chips)
Seat 5: Mach001 ($29.70 in chips)
Seat 6: playittig ($7.85 in chips)
Seat 7: phil123 ($22.37 in chips)
Seat 8: Hero ($22.10 in chips)
Seat 9: Clarkeytg ($50 in chips)
Seat 10: Cboggs ($18.25 in chips)
Withey: posts big blind $0.25
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Hero A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
91scully: calls $0.25
Mach001: folds
playittig: folds
phil123: raises to $1
Hero: raises to $2.50
Clarkeytg: folds
Clarkeytg sits out
Cboggs: folds
Withey: calls $2.25
91scully: calls $2.25
phil123: calls $1.50
----- FLOP ----- [8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
Withey: bets $0.25
91scully: calls $0.25
phil123: calls $0.25
Hero: raises to $7
Withey: calls $6.75
Mari12051 joins the table at seat #2
91scully: folds
phil123: folds
----- TURN ----- [8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Withey: bets $0.25
Hero: calls $0.25
----- RIVER ----- [8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Withey: bets $0.25
Hero: calls $0.25
----- SHOW DOWN -----
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Withey: shows [Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] (Two Pairs, Queens and Eights, Nine high)
Hero: mucks hand
Withey collected $24.25 from Main pot
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His 25c bet looked weak, so I thought I'd represent a big pair. Should I have raised less or simply called?

Hand 2:
Game #924151483: Texas Hold'em Pot Limit ($0.15/$0.25) - 2005/08/24 - 17:19:20 (ET)
Table "Fern" Seat 1 is the button.
Seat 1: Gary02052 ($35.85 in chips)
Seat 2: scooby do ($17.30 in chips)
Seat 3: Withey ($32.70 in chips)
Seat 4: Wildy03 ($0.65 in chips)
Seat 5: Mach001 ($23.75 in chips)
Seat 6: playittig ($8.25 in chips)
Seat 7: phil123 ($28.67 in chips)
Seat 8: Hero ($24.75 in chips)
Seat 9: Clarkeytg ($47.50 in chips)
Seat 10: Cboggs ($20 in chips)
scooby do: posts small blind $0.15
Withey: posts big blind $0.25
Cboggs: posts big blind $0.25
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Hero [K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
Wildy03: folds
Wildy03 sits out
Mach001: calls $0.25
playittig: folds
phil123: calls $0.25
Hero: calls $0.25
Clarkeytg: raises to $0.50
Cboggs: folds
Gary02052: folds
scooby do: calls $0.35
Withey: calls $0.25
Mach001: calls $0.25
phil123: calls $0.25
Hero: calls $0.25
----- FLOP ----- [2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
scooby do: checks
Withey: bets $0.25
Mach001: calls $0.25
phil123: folds
Hero: calls $0.25
Clarkeytg: raises to $0.50
scooby do: folds
Withey: calls $0.25
Mach001: calls $0.25
Hero: calls $0.25
----- TURN ----- [2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]][8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
Withey: checks
Mach001: checks
Hero: checks
Clarkeytg: bets $2.50
Withey: calls $2.50
Mach001: folds
Hero: folds
----- RIVER ----- [2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]][J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
Withey: checks
Clarkeytg: bets $10
Withey: folds
Returned uncalled bets $10 to Clarkeytg
Clarkeytg: doesn't show hand
Clarkeytg collected $9.75 from Main pot

But Doyle says he plays suited kings [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Ok so he must play deep stack games and this is a fold preflop right?

But what else to do? Pot the flop? Check flop and pot no diamond river? I've been stacked before with top and bottom pair and this was even worse, so I went into calling station mode hoping to hit a king or a two

[Zarathustra888]

bump.

Hand 1: Two people cold called your reraise preflop plus the original raiser. Doesn't seem like a good spot for this sort of play--I think a lot of players at this level will call with any overpair which is a very likely holding given preflop action.

Hand 2: I probably would fold this preflop, but if you're going to play it I think you have to make one decent sized bet on the flop. If no one has a flush yet, you probably have the best hand and need to make people pay to draw. If you get any action, I'd probably shut down.

[pottie]

Both hands fine imo.