AJ hand draw on the turn

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I cant fold this turn, right?


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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls,

Flop: (6.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, BB calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero folds, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 9.75 BB, between BB and MP2.</font>

[MrG]

With this small of a pot I would dump the turn. Even the addition of the gutshot to your overcards are not enough to stay. Let 'em have this one.

[Piiop]

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Even the addition of the gutshot to your overcards are not enough to stay

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Did you actually calculate the odds for this?

[MrG]

No,I didn't calculate this but I will try.
All four of the Tens are partial outs becuase you won't have the nut st8. The T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] also makes a flush.
All three Jacks again are partial outs becuase they give some hands straights.
All three aces may be clean but there may be a made st8 out there and I really wouldn't consider them totally clean as you may be up against hands where an Ace dropping on the river gives someone two pair.

Even if you count all 4 tens, all three J's, and all three Aces as all clean(highly doubtful), it is still not correct to call ten outs with under 5BB in the pot. The pot is just too small. Looks like a good fold.

[1p0kerb0y]

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Even if you count all 4 tens, all three J's, and all three Aces as all clean(highly doubtful), it is still not correct to call ten outs with under 5BB in the pot. The pot is just too small. Looks like a good fold.

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10 outs out of 46 cards = 3.6 to 1
money odds = 5.75 to 1

If you're counting all of the outs as clean outs, you DEFINITELY get the odds to call. The calculations of poster ate wrong.

BTW I don't like raising AJ offsuit up front though.
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[MrG]

Thanks for the correction. If the outs are clean the odds are good. Sorry for the blunder.