WSOP numbers off by $420,000 - Page 3

Mountainhawk · #21 07-09-2005, 11:00 PM

It it really more drastic than going back thru ring game history to determine players that were affected by collusion, and refunding bets out of the closed accounts?

TheTimeIsUp · #22 07-09-2005, 11:05 PM

Sure, it would make more sense. I have a hunch if you email Party/Stars about it, they will give you some good reasons why they keep the money. No, it isn't right, but what can we do?

Mountainhawk · #23 07-09-2005, 11:08 PM

Yeah ... I mostly agree. Stars handles most of these type of issues very well, so I'm sure they have a decent reason for handling it how they do.

TheTimeIsUp · #24 07-09-2005, 11:11 PM

It would be actually interesting to how they would respond to it if someone emailed them about it. If no one is up for it, I will.

Mountainhawk · #25 07-09-2005, 11:13 PM

I didn't play any of the qualifiers on there, because I knew I couldn't go to the ME this year. If I had, I would.

PrayingMantis · #26 07-09-2005, 11:22 PM

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It would be actually interesting to how they would respond to it if someone emailed them about it. If no one is up for it, I will.

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I vote for you. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I'd do it myself, but I'm not the best option for writing such emails, as my English isn't my first language, and I always manage to write something that comes somewhat more rude and offensive than what I actually mean... [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

TheTimeIsUp · #27 07-09-2005, 11:27 PM

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It would be actually interesting to how they would respond to it if someone emailed them about it. If no one is up for it, I will.

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I vote for you. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I'd do it myself, but I'm not the best option for writing such emails, as my English isn't my first language, and I always manage to write something that comes somewhat more rude and offensive than what I actually mean... [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Sent. I'll notify you what they say when the repsond.

TheTimeIsUp · #28 07-09-2005, 11:46 PM

Here is their safe response.

"Hello Josh,

Please note players have been informed
that they must be 21 in order to play the satellites or they will forfeit
the seat.

Regards,

Christian
PokerStars Support Team"

davidross · #29 07-10-2005, 12:07 AM

I'm not sure what to think about this. If the winner of some other event was found to be cheating, I think in most cases the prize would go to the 2nd place finisher. Now if the rules clearly state that they will confiscate the money if the winner is ineligible to play then I guess there isn't much you can do about it, but it would sure be good PR for the sites to make the effort to give the prizes to a runner up (Can you tell i finished second in a sat?)

PrayingMantis · #30 07-10-2005, 12:11 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Here is their safe response.

"Hello Josh,

Please note players have been informed
that they must be 21 in order to play the satellites or they will forfeit
the seat.

Regards,

Christian
PokerStars Support Team"

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Thanks for sending it. This reply obviously has nothing new about it. They probably don't feel they owe anybody any kind of explanation about all this. The problem is, IMO, that simply taking the prizes out of the underages players is like taking prize money out of colluding players, without giving any of it back to players who suffered from the collusion. That's why it bothers me. OK, so the kids are stupid, or liers, or clueless, or cheaters. If, for instance they found that a winner of a MTT hacked your comp while playing and saw your cards when you were HU against him, does it make sense to keep 1st place money at Stars instead of giving it to the 2nd player or redistributing it among FT players or something? What can be done about it?