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thesharpie · #1 10-18-2005, 11:08 AM

Sat down recently, UTG seemed loose and button seemed fairly passive. What about PF?

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, Hero calls, Button calls, 1 fold, BB raises, UTG calls, Hero calls, Button calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero calls, Button raises, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (8.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero ???

Womble · #2 10-18-2005, 11:14 AM

Anyone fold the flop? You are getting 9.5/1 but I give you 5 outs at best. The possibility of a raise kills you here. Its close anyway and I would call.

On the turn, if your not raising that what are you doing? Fold to a 3bet

billyjex · #3 10-18-2005, 01:28 PM

Fold preflop. If you are intent on playing, raise and try to isolate the fishy limper. I raise QTs here, but Q9s is marginal enough for me to muck.

Then I muck the flop. Your gutter outs may be tainted with the flush draw, and it may be raised behind you, so it's not like you're really getting odds here.

wackjob · #4 10-18-2005, 01:30 PM

You are a fish. Raise or fold PF. Bet or fold the flop. Raise or fold the turn.

trentcroad · #5 10-18-2005, 01:36 PM

I think Id just fold the flop.

KDawgCometh · #6 10-18-2005, 02:07 PM

I'd rather see a raise PF to isolate the limper. As is, this flop is a fold and I'm also folding this turn. Your TP is relly weak no matter which way you cut it, a flush draw came in, and a straight draw came in too. You also have even more tainted outs on the ten. I'm not finding any reason to call more less raise here

nukemar25 · #7 10-18-2005, 02:10 PM

I agree with Billy. I think you should fold this pre-flop but if you are going to play then raise and try to isolate the limper. This is a good blind stealing hand but other than that I muck this outside the blinds. Considering how you played it I fold the flop.

Silverback · #8 10-18-2005, 02:43 PM

I say limp preflop given the read you have of the button as not being aggressive,
Id fold the flop, 3 outs.