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Old 03-25-2005, 11:36 PM
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Default Re: Does any one see a problem with this?

No, those assult rifles must be much more deadly weapons than an F16. According to the experts here, an F16 is pretty much a piece of junk only suitable for crop dusting.
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Old 03-26-2005, 12:05 AM
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Default Re: Does any one see a problem with this?

sam h is right.
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Old 03-26-2005, 02:08 AM
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Default Here is what Rummy REALLY said.....

http://www-cgi.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/am....venezuela.ap/
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Old 03-26-2005, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: Does any one see a problem with this?

Then you better check with Sam H. and see how Israel destroyed the Iranian nuclear plant, since they used useless F16s on that mission.
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Old 03-26-2005, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: Does any one see a problem with this?

"According to the experts here, an F16 is pretty much a piece of junk only suitable for crop dusting."
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No....You just need to read a simple one page article on the F16 before you make silly claims about the plane.
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Old 03-26-2005, 02:25 AM
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Default Re: Does any one see a problem with this?

Sure. Here is some of its air-to-surface capabilities. No reason why missles couldn't be tipped with small nukes.

Air-to-surface missiles carried on the F-16 include Maverick, HARM and Shrike missiles, manufactured by Raytheon, and anti-ship missiles include Boeing Harpoon and Kongsberg Penguin.

The first guided launch of the new Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM) was successfully carried out from an F-16 and the F-16 was the first USAF aircraft to be fitted with the Joint Standoff Weapon (JSOW) in April 2000.

The F-16 can be fitted with Lockheed Martin Wind Corrected Munitions Dispenser (WCMD), which provides precision guidance for CBU-87, -89, and 97 cluster munitions. The system corrects for launch transients, ballistic errors, and winds aloft.

The F-16 will be the first aircraft to use the USAF's new weapon rack, the Edo Corporation BRU-57. The BRU-57 is a vertical ejection rack which doubles the aircraft's capacity for precision-guided weapons like JDAM and WCMD.
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Old 03-26-2005, 02:26 AM
Felix_Nietsche Felix_Nietsche is offline
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Default Re: Does any one see a problem with this?

Jeez...earth to Cardcounter.
Are you there?
These countries ALREADY have planes that can carry nukes. Selling F16s will not make a nuclear war more likely between these countries.

And the primary mission of F16 is as a fighter.
F = Fighter (eg F14, F15, F16, F22)
B = Bomber (eg B1, B2)
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Old 03-26-2005, 02:29 AM
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Default Re: Does any one see a problem with this?

Maybe you would understand a picture better:



General Characteristics:
Primary Function: Air-to-surface Standoff from Point Defense (SOPD) weapon for use against a variety of targets.
Contractor: Raytheon Co.
Guidance: GPS/INS (Global Position/Inertial), Terminal IR Seeker (AGM-154C unique)
Length: 160 inches (4.1 meters)
Diameter: box shaped 13 inches (33.02 cm) on a side
Weight: From 1,065 pounds (483 kilograms) to 1,500 pounds (681 kilograms)
Wingspan: 106 inches (2.69 meters)
Aircraft Compatibility:
Navy: F/A-18 C/D, F/A-18 E/F, AV-8B, F-35
Air Force: F-16 Block 40/50, B-1, B-2, B-52, F-15, F-117, A-10, F-35A
Range: Low altitude launch - 15 nautical miles (27.78 kilometers), High altitude launch - 65 nautical miles (120.38 kilometers)
Warhead(s): BLU-97 - Combined effects bomblets, BLU-108 - Sensor fused weapon, Broach multi-stage warhead
Unit Cost:
AUPP AGM-154A, $148,000
AGM-154C, $198,000, based on PB04, BY$(1990)
Date Deployed: January 1999
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Old 03-26-2005, 02:32 AM
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Default Re: Does any one see a problem with this?

So?
And your point is?

These countries already have planes that will carry nukes.
So excuse me if I don't join you in your sky-is-falling panic attack.
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Old 03-26-2005, 02:40 AM
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Default Re: Does any one see a problem with this?

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Basically, Pakistan is already capable of conducting a large nuclear strike against India and selling them a few more F16s won't change anything.

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Indeed, and this bodes well. This is all part of Zeno's World Domination Enterprises that I have posted about before and I am happy to see things moving towards fruition. India and Pakistan should be at each other’s throats in a big way by decades end. Let the mushroom clouds fill the sky.

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