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Old 05-25-2005, 01:52 AM
TheWorstPlayer TheWorstPlayer is offline
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Default Patented TWP over-aggro donkitude?

Villain is 50/3/2.75 but only over 30 hands. He seems quite bad, but not in any way that I can pinpoint yet. Just makes bad plays in general so far. Comments?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: (3.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.25 BB
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Old 05-25-2005, 01:54 AM
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Default Re: Patented TWP over-aggro donkitude?

You have to raise the turn and river. You are almost certainly best here.
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Old 05-25-2005, 01:55 AM
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Default Re: Patented TWP over-aggro donkitude?

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You have to raise the turn and river. You are almost certainly best here.

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Are you being serious? Raising the river was the last thing I thought to do. If you are serious, please explain what hand range you put him on and how raising the river makes any sense.
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Old 05-25-2005, 02:47 AM
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Default Re: Patented TWP over-aggro donkitude?

I don't like the flop 3bet

and I don't think you are good more than 8.25/2 to call down UI either
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Old 05-25-2005, 02:56 AM
therockofgibraltar therockofgibraltar is offline
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Default Re: Patented TWP over-aggro donkitude?

I must be weak as hell, but I would not 3-bet and would fold on turn.
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Old 05-25-2005, 03:02 AM
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Default Re: Patented TWP over-aggro donkitude?

Uhg, personally I'd never go to war like that over such a small pot with that hand.
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Old 05-25-2005, 03:36 AM
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Default Re: Patented TWP over-aggro donkitude?

Looks way overplayed to me.

I call the flop raise, and check/call to showdown.

I think anybody that advocate folding at any point in this hand is being very weak.
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Old 05-25-2005, 08:13 AM
TheWorstPlayer TheWorstPlayer is offline
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Default Re: Patented TWP over-aggro donkitude?

So there are no advocates of leading or c/r the turn, huh? I think that 3-betting the turn against an unknown with TP (even with no kicker) is not that bad, but I'm willing to be corrected. People will raise draws, middle pair or bottom pair with an overcard, two overcards, etc a fair amount of the time. Once he caps, obviously I have to slow down, I think. Still don't think I can fold top pair heads up, though. I knew this one felt a little funny, though, so thought I should get feedback. But now I'm not sure what the best line is. Is the consensus that I should just call his raise on the flop and call it down? What hand range do people put him on?
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Old 05-25-2005, 09:57 AM
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Default Re: Patented TWP over-aggro donkitude?

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You have to raise the turn and river. You are almost certainly best here.

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Are you being serious? Raising the river was the last thing I thought to do. If you are serious, please explain what hand range you put him on and how raising the river makes any sense.

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I wasn't being serious. I would have released it on the flop.
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Old 05-25-2005, 10:16 AM
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I would have released it on the flop.

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Three handed on the flop, you're folding top pair to a raise?
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