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Old 03-09-2005, 03:38 PM
TimM TimM is offline
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Default Hand where I raised and did not fold to the cap...

I thought for a while about the PF call. SB is 2+2'er cnfuzzd, BB is 15.4/12.5 after 100 hands.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB folds, Hero calls.

I liked the flop, and the fact that BB folded, but now I think I just have to call down and hope that either my hand is good, or if not, I have some outs.

Turn: (9.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (11.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.
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Old 03-09-2005, 03:46 PM
MoDOH MoDOH is offline
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Default Re: Hand where I raised and did not fold to the cap...

You can safely fold this river knowing that you saved yourself a bet...
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Old 03-09-2005, 03:51 PM
TimM TimM is offline
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Default Re: Hand where I raised and did not fold to the cap...

Are you 92% sure of that?

Edit: I don't know if it means anything, but he knew who I was, and I knew that he knew, etc., etc.
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Old 03-09-2005, 04:17 PM
JoshuaD JoshuaD is offline
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Default Re: Hand where I raised and did not fold to the cap...

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Are you 92% sure of that?

Edit: I don't know if it means anything, but he knew who I was, and I knew that he knew, etc., etc.

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And it really looks like you're gonna call down with top pair, from his POV.
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Old 03-09-2005, 04:29 PM
applej25 applej25 is offline
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Default Re: Hand where I raised and did not fold to the cap...

I don't see him playing anything other than AA-QQ like this.
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Old 03-09-2005, 11:30 PM
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Default Re: Hand where I raised and did not fold to the cap...

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I don't see him playing anything other than AA-QQ like this.

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uh, no. If you arent playing tpgk this way against an attempted blind steal, you are leaving money on the table.

And 2+2ers have a wide range of hands they open raise with on the button. AT should be an automatic threebet from the SB.

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Old 03-10-2005, 12:41 PM
applej25 applej25 is offline
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Default Re: Hand where I raised and did not fold to the cap...

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AT should be an automatic threebet from the SB.


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Thats one of the most rediculous things I've ever seen on this site.
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Old 03-10-2005, 12:45 PM
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Default Re: Hand where I raised and did not fold to the cap...

Did you read the part where he said "2+2er open raises on the button". I would think about 3 betting any Ace there, AT is a monster.

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Old 03-10-2005, 02:10 PM
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Default Re: Hand where I raised and did not fold to the cap...

As DD pointed out, there is a rather substantial (dare I say ginormous?) difference between 3-betting ATo from the SB when, say: (1) UTG limps, UTG+1 raises, MP1 coldcalls . . . and (2) folded to Button who raises.

In situation (2) I would have to have the mother of all reads to do anything but 3-bet ATo . . .
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Old 03-09-2005, 04:32 PM
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Results: cnfuzzd shows 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair)
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