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View Poll Results: Do you think William care one bit if somebody got offended? (bonus question, because I am in a good
Yes, he is devastated and will try to have this poll deleted 22 20.18%
No, and if you check this option, you are less dumb than what he imagined 36 33.03%
I don't know and I don't care but I am dumb enough to take this poll anyway 29 26.61%
Yes, in some cases he does because there are after all a few posters he does respect, but he knows those few ones will understand the joke and will forgive him 22 20.18%
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Old 10-06-2005, 11:42 AM
phil_ivey_fan phil_ivey_fan is offline
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Default Ethics Questions: Job Offers

Say you get an offer from a company to start working right after new years. But you need to let them know by Nov 1. Is it ethical to accept their offer and keep looking and then drop them when/if a better offer comes along?

k, its not ethical, but who gives a [censored] right?
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Old 10-06-2005, 11:46 AM
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Default Re: Ethics Questions: Job Offers

In this world, all is fair in teh job hunt
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Old 10-06-2005, 11:57 AM
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Default Re: Ethics Questions: Job Offers

i've done it. i felt terrible about it, no matter how i tried to rationalize the job market. after having been on the hiring side of things, i know it's a shiity thing to do.

no, it's not ethical, the best thing is to talk honestly to the hiring manager. i.e. you want the job but you simply need more time to accept.
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Old 10-06-2005, 11:58 AM
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Default Re: Ethics Questions: Job Offers

HR people are just as quick to screw you if it suits them.
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Old 10-06-2005, 12:02 PM
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Default Re: Ethics Questions: Job Offers

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HR people are just as quick to screw you if it suits them.

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Old 10-06-2005, 12:02 PM
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Default Re: Ethics Questions: Job Offers

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HR people are just as quick to screw you if it suits them.

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Exactly. F the man!
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Old 10-06-2005, 12:06 PM
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Default Re: Ethics Questions: Job Offers

No problem at all if a big business - it's just business. If it's a little show, not a nice thing, but you've got to think of yourself first when it comes to jobs.
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Old 10-06-2005, 12:11 PM
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Default Re: Ethics Questions: Job Offers

If they are not offering you a contract (i.e., you are an 'at will' employee), then I don't think there is a problem with accepting now and continuing to look since they aren't really guaranteeing you anything.

If you get a better offer, just tell them "I'm sorry, but...". They won't be happy, but they'll get over it. Be professional about it and they shouldn't hold any long term grudges (in case you ever want/need to do business with them).

And if they really want you, maybe they'll make you a better better offer.
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Old 10-06-2005, 01:44 PM
2+2 wannabe 2+2 wannabe is offline
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HR people are much quicker to screw you just because they can.

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Old 10-06-2005, 03:28 PM
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If they are not offering you a contract (i.e., you are an 'at will' employee), then I don't think there is a problem with accepting now and continuing to look since they aren't really guaranteeing you anything.

If you get a better offer, just tell them "I'm sorry, but...". They won't be happy, but they'll get over it. Be professional about it and they shouldn't hold any long term grudges (in case you ever want/need to do business with them).

And if they really want you, maybe they'll make you a better better offer.

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To continue along this line, without a contract, they also don't owe you anything. If they have a sudden downturn, they'll think nothing of retracting the offer.

Bottom line is, if they aren't committed, you shouldn't be either. But don't burn any bridges. If this is an environment where word can get out that you accepted and reneged, don't do it. Stick it out for 6 months and then leave.
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