Folding QQ heads up on rags board

[evain]

Hi guys and girls

My problem hand today has been pocket queens. Twice in five minutes I had problems - this is the first hand.

Party 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed, average table) villain is 42/12/27 with post flop aggression at .44

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Two folds , MP1 calls, MP2 folds , <font color="red"> Hero raises </font> , two folds , SB calls, BB completes and MP1 calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue"> (4 players) </font>
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="red">Hero bets </font>, <font color="red">SB check raises </font>, BB folds, MP1 folds, <font color="red"> Hero calls </font>.

Turn: (7BB) 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
<font color="red">SB bets </font>, <font color="red"> Hero folds </font>.


I could not think what he would be check raising with from the blinds that was not at least two pair. So when the board did not pair or help me on the turn I bailed. OK he is loose, but with post flop aggression at .44 what should I do? Any thoughts are appreciated.

evain

[lu_hawk]

he's 42/12 and you give him credit for a hand that beats QQ? you need to either 3-bet the flop or raise the turn. and if he is rational then the c/r on the flop is not a 'i have a big hand' c/r it is a 'i want everyone to fold when they face 2 cold' c/r. this is a very bad fold.

[Fat Nicky]

Ouch!! Terrible fold!! I would have re-raised the flop and if capped, I would then call down.

SB could have been check-raising an 8, 99, 1010, JJ, or a flush draw, all of which you're way ahead of here and hands that you could earn extra bets against.

Regarding his post flop aggression, for how many hands is this number???

[brettbrettr]

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I could not think what he would be check raising with from the blinds that was not at least two pair.

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A8? Anyhoo, I don't like the fold at all. 3 bet the flop and see what he does on the turn.

[PokerBob]

The only problem here is that you are a chicken [censored]. Folding here is horrific. 3-bet that flop and call it down if you are capped. If he has 2 pair or a set, good for him. He very well could have c/r'ed the flop to scare you off of your AK/AQ.

[evain]

He had been active in about 13 hands so far. So that's enough time to see if he is aggro crazy.

[evain]

Thanks Bob. Call it like it is.

[PokerBob]

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Thanks Bob. Call it like it is.

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Nothing personal.

[Fat Nicky]

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He had been active in about 13 hands so far. So that's enough time to see if he is aggro crazy.

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13 hands is not even close to calculate a aggression factor, and not even remotely close to make a fold based on this AF like the one you made.

[evain]

Not at all. I respect your opinion and that's why I posted the hand - for advice. Thanks.